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OT: BA to face tougher J competition to HKG

Old Dec 7, 10, 7:54 am
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OT: BA to face tougher J competition to HKG

CX unveiled a new and improved J class in HKG today in a "Light up the Sky" presentation. Highlight is the 1-2-1 layout as against BA's 2-4-2 layout. Seating is wider to meet previous criticism of CX's herringbone layout.

http://www.businesstraveller.com/asi...r-cathay-a-yet
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Old Dec 7, 10, 8:01 am
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Looks a lot like the new BA F...

Too bad it probably will take forever to roll out and there is no way I will get to enjoy it on two flights to HKG early next year.
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Old Dec 7, 10, 8:12 am
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Woo hoo.
Looks excellent (except no U/D as no 744s being converted? )

I have switched most of my Eastbound flights to CX from BA due to the better service and food (and consistently poor, non-functioning CW seats, AVOD etc.) if BA works well, it's great, but more and more often both hard and soft products don't work as they should.

Due to the high numbers (based on anecdotal evidence) of LHR-HKG pax who switched from CX to BA due to the CX J "coffins", lets see if this has pax moving back away from BA in droves (and hopefully gives the BA service and catering a well-placed kick up the *rse!!)

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Old Dec 7, 10, 8:17 am
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I think it looks similar to US Airway's new envoy class. With out the bad looking wood panels they have at the bulkheads.
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Old Dec 7, 10, 8:57 am
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Looks very pleasant indeed - almost like first class, with the 1-2-1 layout. Very SQ. ^^
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Old Dec 7, 10, 9:35 am
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Looks great and seems to compete with both BA's F and J products. Fortunately for CX, it can maintain product differentiation between its F and J product because its F product is so much more spacious and superior both to its own new J product, as well as to BA's F product (e.g. CX has 9 F seats in the nose of a 747 versus BA's 14).
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Old Dec 7, 10, 9:38 am
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Comfort.

Originally Posted by ardboe View Post
I think it looks similar to US Airway's new envoy class. With out the bad looking wood panels they have at the bulkheads.
Hopefully more comfortable though. The US Airways seats look a lot more comfortable than they are, whereas the BA J seats are a lot more comfortable than they look. Currently I'd choose BA J every time based on that factor alone.
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Old Dec 7, 10, 1:10 pm
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CX Mortuary Class is dead. Long love CX Business Class

On first impression, the new CX seat looks very well conceived and carefully detailed. This is where comparisons between it and the US Envoy seat ends. The Envoy seat was conceived from a school of thought where hard plastic predominates and incongruous surface mounted patch panels (with visible fixings) are deemed acceptable. The US seat is a Chevy Matiz to CX's Cadillac DTS.


CX Business Class seat (source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/businesstraveller)


US Envoy seat (source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southbound228)

The new seat is a very welcome addition to the oneworld offering and marks the end of those wretched herringbone cabins, at least within the oneworld stable.

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Old Dec 7, 10, 1:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Prospero View Post
The new seat {snip} marks the end of those wretched herringbone cabins, at least within the oneworld stable.
Not quite. They will remain on the 747s (very) unfortunately.
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It would be great to have that set up on the UD of a 747
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The layout reminds me more of AF's F product.
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Old Dec 7, 10, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ardboe View Post
It would be great to have that set up on the UD of a 747
Indeed. If CX offered this hard product consistently across their fleet I would not even blink before switching to them for LH to asia. Unfortunately they won't. BA still wins for the most consistent LH (hard) product offering.
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Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach View Post
The layout reminds me more of AF's F product.
I immediately thought: BA NF on 777 but different colour scheme...
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Very impressive. So we know the first a/c to get this will be next March - any further details on the broader rollout plan? I guess CX has been feeling the heat from the improved SQ l/h J product. Hopefully it'll bring a bit more competition into pricing on the route.
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Old Dec 8, 10, 4:04 am
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Well done CX!

They now have a product to match their great inflight service.

The only thing that might tempt me to use BA is the extra miles awarded.

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