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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
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Old Nov 16, 12, 1:28 am
  #1411  
 
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[QUOTE=CityRules;19615584]None for me so far in 12 sectors LCY/Zurich. Booked LHR/ZRH and straight away I get a POUG at £79. Took it for the TPs. I'll wait on the return leg and see if it comes down to £69.

Ended up taking the POUG on the return for £79. I have another two bookings LHR-ZRH at non rush-hour flight times but, as yet, no offers.
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Old Nov 16, 12, 2:18 am
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I've still got the outbound to JER tomorrow as £255! Probably won't change as it's a same day return.
Wouldn't bother anyway for the length of flight, have exit row seats and would lose any extra TPs anyway at this stage in my membership year.
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Old Nov 16, 12, 3:22 am
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Originally Posted by saleemarshad View Post
Any recent offers on LHR - JFK WT+ to CW ... hmmm
The missus was offered £525 LHR-EWR just recently, so I suspect JFK will be the same.
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Old Nov 16, 12, 3:32 am
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Benj View Post
The missus was offered £525 LHR-EWR just recently, so I suspect JFK will be the same.
That sounds like a terrible offer... LAX-LHR was recently £399...
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Old Nov 16, 12, 3:32 am
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Benj View Post
The missus was offered £525 LHR-EWR just recently, so I suspect JFK will be the same.
Steep considering you can use 10k Avios + tax to MFU from WT+ to CW (although less TP for it).

I personally wouldn't pay that (unless it was a return fare and I would then consider it).
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Old Nov 16, 12, 3:35 am
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£525 works out at £10.5/TP, so it's about 10 times more than I'd expect to pay if I were doing a TP run.
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Old Nov 16, 12, 3:47 am
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Paid Upgrade Prices

In the past I have often taken advantage of paying to upgrade when I check in (when it's offered). I have an upcoming LHR - RUH flight and was offered to upgrade to WT+ for £800 (outbound only) which seems ridiculous as the flight was only £630! This is the first time I've seen the upgrade cost more than the price of the ticket. Any ideas if the price might be lower closer to the departure date?
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Old Nov 16, 12, 3:58 am
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I was offered £399 on the JFK - LHR W - J recently. A little before that the same for ORD - LHR W - J
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Old Nov 16, 12, 4:14 am
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That'll be a change fee + fare difference, rather than a pro-active upgrade offer.

If it doesn't change before OLCI, ask at the airport, you can normall get it there for £189 (I think that's how much it costs now) if there's availibility
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Old Nov 16, 12, 4:41 am
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so far its about 2000 on each leg for an upgrade. wonder if this will change close to date of departure.
i got upgrades lhr - las for 225 each way last dec.
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Old Nov 16, 12, 4:49 am
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CHF100 for LHR-ZRH (the return sector), booked into I. About CHF30 cheaper than had I booked straight into CE (also I class) during the booking process.
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Old Nov 16, 12, 6:06 am
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Originally Posted by BCH View Post
It's the inbound flight that I upgraded with miles, but it's the outbound flight that I am hoping to upgrade with money. Thanks.
Doesn't matter unfortunately, once the booking has been touched with a mileage upgrade it will stop it from being cash upgraded, even on the other leg.

My LHR-LIN positioning flight in February for an ex-EU has gone from £69 each way to £225.61 upgrade outbound (which is presumably refare plus change fee) and £79 inbound.
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Old Nov 16, 12, 6:11 am
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Question

How does one know the difference between a POUG and a fare difference upgrade? I mean, I paid 788€ for a WT+ upgrade going HEL-LHR-SAN-LHR-HEL - is that a special offer price or a fare difference offer? The original WT ticket was ~800€, so it was roughly +100%.

Also, if that was a POUG, did accepting the deal "disable" further upgrade offers?
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Old Nov 16, 12, 6:14 am
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Originally Posted by stifle View Post

My LHR-LIN positioning flight in February for an ex-EU has gone from £69 each way to £225.61 upgrade outbound (which is presumably refare plus change fee) and £79 inbound.
Does the cost fluctuate in line with specific CE fare class availability? For one of my sectors I class was available and the cost difference was low, but on another there is no I and it seems that it will book into D and there is a much larger cost.

Perhaps on your outbound, I class was originally available but is now sold and there are now only higher CE fare buckets left.
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Old Nov 16, 12, 6:31 am
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I expect that is the case. A while back the outbound said 3 seats left at this price (£69), and I looked up I availability on KVS and it was I3.
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