Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Sep 16, 2012, 10:24 am
#1216
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I forget about that CX card. My concern was that it wasn't the number on my BP, but they didn't check that.
Actually I do have a POUG question: They're not offered on redemption bookings, right?
Actually I do have a POUG question: They're not offered on redemption bookings, right?
Sep 16, 2012, 11:37 am
#1217
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Seriously, this has been reported a number of times now. But the miles/TP earning if you do this is different: redemption + POUG = no miles/TP at all for either cabin despite the cash paid for the POUG.
Sep 16, 2012, 1:53 pm
#1218
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Interesting. I've got a CW redemption booked on a JFK-LHR flight. I'd like to move up to F, but if there are no TPs for POUG that would make it a difficult decision.
Sep 16, 2012, 2:09 pm
#1219
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If you get lucky they may even credit full F TPs depending on how generous/dumb the agent is
Redemption bookings wont earn you anything though unfortunately.
Sep 16, 2012, 3:02 pm
#1220
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Why would it be difficult, surely you are paying for the additional service, you get nothing right now for a CW redemption, pay a few £ and get F service and no TP, surely that is not a show stopper.
Sep 16, 2012, 3:55 pm
#1221
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Ultimately without TPs and the handful of haribos, I'd be paying for a pair of pyjamas, and I'd have to decide whether that was worth it.
Sep 16, 2012, 4:04 pm
#1222
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IMHO, if that's all the difference that F will make to you, then the cost of the J --> F POUG would not be worth it even with the miles and TPs.
Sep 16, 2012, 4:25 pm
#1223
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£25 to First Class!
Ok, this was on the "East Coast Main Line" today...turns out you can't get a flight from London Heathrow to Leeds Bradford Airport any more :-(. I did rather think that BA would take over all the old BMI routes, including LHR-LBA, but hey, guess I missed the announcement (not travelled up this way for a while). My first time on a non-Eurostar train for at least a decade. The food is somewhat less good than BA first...
Ok, this was on the "East Coast Main Line" today...turns out you can't get a flight from London Heathrow to Leeds Bradford Airport any more :-(. I did rather think that BA would take over all the old BMI routes, including LHR-LBA, but hey, guess I missed the announcement (not travelled up this way for a while). My first time on a non-Eurostar train for at least a decade. The food is somewhat less good than BA first...
Sep 16, 2012, 5:09 pm
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Schedule posted at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/18828567-post18.html.
Sep 16, 2012, 6:44 pm
#1225
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Am I likely to get offered a POUG on an redemption ticket booked in a different class due to flight being cancelled.
Original flight booked onto was cancelled so was rebooked in a revenue class on the flight that I wanted to go onto as there was no award availability on this flight. Can't do anything on MMB apart from change my seat to cancel or amend the flight it gets a can't do this on this type of booking please call the call centre. Currently 6 weeks out of travel.
Original flight booked onto was cancelled so was rebooked in a revenue class on the flight that I wanted to go onto as there was no award availability on this flight. Can't do anything on MMB apart from change my seat to cancel or amend the flight it gets a can't do this on this type of booking please call the call centre. Currently 6 weeks out of travel.
Sep 16, 2012, 7:47 pm
#1226
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ZRH-LHR - ET to CE - 100 CHF.
After reading this thread, it seems I didnt get a great deal. Oh well.
ERQ
After reading this thread, it seems I didnt get a great deal. Oh well.
ERQ
Sep 17, 2012, 6:09 am
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Funny UG I got on MMB: LHR-GIG WT to WTP, fare difference £35 + £100 change fee MINUS £65 taxes = £70. Great value for 55 extra TPs but was pretty mad anyway as 2 days before I phoned to change the date on that leg, was charge change fee and fare difference of about £100 but was never advised of the option to UG for a further £35 
Sep 17, 2012, 6:42 am
#1228
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IME, when phoning to do a POUG after seeing it on MMB (but not being able to complete it there), the agent has usually had to go off to look up whether it was available. I've inferred from that that it isn't something that is immediately obvious from looking at your booking, but has to be searched for elsewhere. If that's right, it would be entirely understandable that if you don't ask for it, the agent won't know whether there is anything for you.
Sep 17, 2012, 7:03 am
#1229
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AMS-LGW, later this week... POUG offer of
€375!
hmmm - tricky one...
€375!
hmmm - tricky one...
Sep 17, 2012, 7:51 am
#1230
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Doesn't look like a POUG to me.
It looks like a standard fare rules "change fee plus fare difference" upgrade.
I don't know why posting these numbers helps a thread which is supposed to be about tracking the cost of POUGs.
It looks like a standard fare rules "change fee plus fare difference" upgrade.
I don't know why posting these numbers helps a thread which is supposed to be about tracking the cost of POUGs.
