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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
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Old Sep 24, 10, 4:04 pm
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The 'special' J to F price seems a blanket GBP399. however it is offered far less frequently than ET to CE so expect not to see it in MMB.
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Old Sep 25, 10, 1:19 pm
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Can I just clarify a couple of things. Planning a work trip to LAS, with no client to charge so Y only . However we do have a budget available so can use it to upgrade.

I'll be starting at MAN so do they do upgrades there (don't think I've ever seen them)?

Route is MAN-LHR-DFW-LAS (last segment is on AA and not going direct as is 1K more!). Does that stop the MMB upgrade being available?


Thanks


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Old Sep 27, 10, 11:32 am
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[QUOTE=BA or bust;14767408]
Quote: Originally Posted by BA or bust
Can you (or other helpful souls) please confirm that one can upgrade on codeshares? I can understand BA's systems being able to cope with BA's own flights - but I am scpetical that BA can do it for all its codeshare partners. As it happens HEL is one of the routes I might do this on, but there there are others e.g. Malev.

BTW - since I mostly have TA booked tickets I can only do this at OLCI time. Hence the concern about BA's IT talking to, say, Finnair's IT at short notice and getting the transaction right!

Anyone know the answer or have experience of this? ?[/
QUOTE]

Bumped, really keen to find out if anyone knows the answer to this.
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Old Sep 27, 10, 4:14 pm
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LHR-DXB £399 J to F. Offered at OLCI for a flight selling F5A4.
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Old Sep 27, 10, 4:39 pm
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DXB-LHR and LHR-DXB, both AED750 (about 130 quid) from WT->WT+. Only outward was available until a few days ago, but suddenly (after the outbound) the inbound was available too.

Can anyone confirm (or otherwise) that the LGW MMB upgrades can be done on o/w flights?

I'd like to do LGW-JER-LGW and upgrade only the outbound (to make silver and thus avoid losing 40TPs on the above-mentioned LHR-DXB in W!), but for time and cost reasons I'd like to take BA8031 out and BA8032 back - 50 mins turnaround time. BA.com won't allow it, aa.com will only price full Y. Available on expedia but then of course I can't upgrade...
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Old Sep 28, 10, 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by BingBongBoy View Post
My SFO flight is now showing £185 Y to W on the outbound as a special offer upgrade... Last week it was £135...

Still offering it to me although according to Reservations, there is no availability...
Just be thankfull you were offerred one -we are going next monday morning and we have not been offerred anything!I had to fork out £100 to get exit seats in row 28 as we are always unlucky with upgrades.
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Old Sep 29, 10, 7:04 am
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Has anyone ever seen proactive upgrades offered on flights originating in the regions?

I've got an upcoming EDI-LHR-SFO and its looking pretty full:

F7 A3 J3 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 Q0 G0 W2 E0 T0 N0 O0

I'm in WT+ and over the past couple of weeks I've been monitoring the W class which went from its original 9 to hit zero, went back up to 4 or 5 (Revenue Management I guess), went back to 1 and now sits at 2. Its obviously impossible to say if WT+ is overbooked but I suspect it might be and that revenue management have opened up some more seats and that there will be some upgrades on board.

However, I'd probably jump at the chance to pay a cash upgrade (no MFU availability) but I've never actually been offered a proactive upgrade before. Most of my flights originate in EDI.

So, has anyone actually seen a pro-active upgrade offer when the flight originates in the regions, and where on MMB does it actually appear? Also, is there such a thing as an typical WT+ -> Club pro-active upgrade price for this route?
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Old Sep 29, 10, 7:16 am
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter View Post
LHR-DXB £399 J to F. Offered at OLCI for a flight selling F5A4.
And did that make you whip out the Amex?
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Old Sep 29, 10, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by Paralytic View Post
Has anyone ever seen proactive upgrades offered on flights originating in the regions?
Hi Paralytic, this topic came up a while ago in this thread. The conclusion was that these proactive upgrades aren't available when there is a domestic feeder into LON.

I've taken to booking my LHR-XXX-LHR and MAN-LHR-MAN on separate tickets so I can get the chance of a proactive upgrade.
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Old Sep 29, 10, 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by timezonehopper View Post
Hi Paralytic, this topic came up a while ago in this thread. The conclusion was that these proactive upgrades aren't available when there is a domestic feeder into LON.

I've taken to booking my LHR-XXX-LHR and MAN-LHR-MAN on separate tickets so I can get the chance of a proactive upgrade.
Thanks, looks like i'll just have to ask when i get to the airport, but I suspect I'll get the current normal MMB upgrade price of a measly £5460

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Old Sep 29, 10, 8:03 am
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Anyone know about the cost from PHX-LHR-TLV?

I was able to book my brother and sister inlaw into wt+, but they want $8000 to bump them to CW...I obviously could just buy them cw at that price, so any idea what I can expect here? Travels not till Dec. but any info is appreciated.
Also upgraded FCO to LHR for $137 last month.
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Old Sep 29, 10, 4:27 pm
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Anyone know why I the option to upgrade my upcoming WT LHR-SFO and LAX-LHR trip would be greyed out? Both upgrade with miles and upgrade with money are not available, and clicking on them reports:

'We regret that it has not been possible to retrieve the full itinerary details required to enable you to change your booking on ba.com. Please contact your local British Airways office.'

Flight was booked directly through ba.com.
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Old Oct 5, 10, 9:44 am
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Lhr-lax - £195

Travelling with someone to LAX next week, I'm on a revenue ticket and he is on a redemption, both in Y at the moment.

Special upgrade offer just popped up in both our reservations for £195 one way each.

Is the offer likely to get better as we get closer to the flight?

Sorry, very new at this, it's actually my first time in many years flying Y on long Haul (combination of travelling with someone and a relatively last minute booking).

Also, I'm intrigued (though I'm sure it's been answered before) I assume I get W Tier points and miles if I take the upgrade but what about my friend travelling on a redemption? Would the upgrade change his ticket from a redemption fare to a revenue one?
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Old Oct 5, 10, 9:55 am
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And did that make you whip out the Amex?
No...which proved wise as I ended up in 3K anyhow!
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Old Oct 5, 10, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by clubman View Post
Travelling with someone to LAX next week, I'm on a revenue ticket and he is on a redemption, both in Y at the moment.

Special upgrade offer just popped up in both our reservations for £195 one way each.
The upgrade offer is now gone from my MMB, but still in my travel companion's yet I'm on a revenue ticket and he is on redemption, very odd.
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