Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > British Airways | Executive Club
Reload this Page >

Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

    Hide Wikipost
Old Dec 21, 15, 2:54 am   -   Wikipost
Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been on FT for 90 days and have made 90 posts.
 
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
Wiki Link
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Print Wikipost

Old Sep 1, 10, 11:04 am
  #61  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Four Seasons Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Programs: BA, VS, HH, IHG, MB, MR
Posts: 26,042
BOD and LUX out of Gatwick are £60 each way pre-booked.
Raffles is offline  
Old Sep 2, 10, 10:10 am
  #62  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 400
Originally Posted by Camflyer View Post
Wow! That's the most expensive Y upgrade offer I've ever seen. Would be worth keeping an eye on it to see if it comes down closer to the date.
Sadly not, not yet anyway. In fact it's increased by a few hundred pounds!

Outbound: £1194.64 per adult to upgrade to World Traveller Plus on this flight
Return: £1007.54 per adult to upgrade to World Traveller Plus on this flight
Save £ 90.00 by upgrading both flights for a total cost of £ 2112.18

This is LHR-EZE and back.

Last edited by polochick; Sep 4, 10 at 3:13 pm Reason: route clarification
polochick is offline  
Old Sep 4, 10, 8:28 am
  #63  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London and Zurich
Programs: AA, BA, Mucci: Sir Roger des Directions Routières, PCR
Posts: 13,609
Originally Posted by Roger View Post
LHR-JFK: £513.09 WT to WT+;
JFK-LHR: £326.40 WT to WT+.
Now:
£2101.79 outbound - to CW;
£681.49 inbound
+ the offer to 'save' £90 by doing both.
Roger is offline  
Old Sep 4, 10, 9:22 am
  #64  
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: London
Programs: BA - Gold for Life, CCR & GGL; IC Spire Elite Ambassador; Diamond Hilton Honors; Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 6,707
Today, I upgraded my Mother's forthcoming YYZ-LHR flight from Y (H class) to WTP for £125, due to the special proactive upgrade offer in MMB. It now shows as P booking class.
TravellerFrequently is offline  
Old Sep 4, 10, 2:46 pm
  #65  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London and Zurich
Programs: AA, BA, Mucci: Sir Roger des Directions Routières, PCR
Posts: 13,609
I was just offered £100 for upgrade to CE LHR-ZRH.

Given that this presumably includes the enhanced APD, I'm tempted. (Can't remember if we get enhanced TPs and miles, but I'll check back.)

FWIW, our last few ZRH flights in A319s still had old-style 2+3 seats. The one I've just booked is an A320.
Roger is offline  
Old Sep 4, 10, 2:48 pm
  #66  
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,022
Yes you will get extra tp and miles for this route.

Cheers
redsox1918 is offline  
Old Sep 7, 10, 5:13 am
  #67  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Berkshire
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold, GGL/CCR, Jumeirah Sirius Gold, Hilton Diamond, Virgin Traveller, PUCCI Fan Club
Posts: 1,636
With regards to 'at airport upgrades' I have a few questions...

I have not noticed the option to upgrade at the airport... do you have to request availability at check in? Are upgrades usually available if space permits or is it not as straight forward as that?

If you have an MFU'd CW seat netting you 75 TP's and you got a paid upgrade to F for £399, would that mean you would get 180 TP's even though it was an MFU? Thats assuming you can buy an upgrade for an MFU ticket?
oxtailsoup is offline  
Old Sep 9, 10, 7:56 am
  #68  
HNL
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 10,851
Are these "cash upgrades" associated with specific fare inventory bucket? (e.g "T", "E", or "W")?

So, for example, if I was to look on expertflyer.com and saw T2 would know that a cash upgrade is possible.
HNL is offline  
Old Sep 9, 10, 8:39 am
  #69  
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: London
Programs: BAEC, HH, PC
Posts: 131
Originally Posted by HNL View Post
Are these "cash upgrades" associated with specific fare inventory bucket? (e.g "T", "E", or "W")?

So, for example, if I was to look on expertflyer.com and saw T2 would know that a cash upgrade is possible.
I'm not sure it is that straight forward. The last time I upgraded a Y to WTP ticket it went from an 'M' fare into the 'P' bucket. Conversely I recently upgraded a ET ticket which turned from a 'V' fare to an 'I' fare.

Last edited by BA_Blade; Sep 9, 10 at 8:40 am Reason: typo
BA_Blade is offline  
Old Sep 10, 10, 1:36 pm
  #70  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hove, UK
Programs: BA Bronze; Hyatt GP; Radisson; etc...
Posts: 130
LHR -> EWR for a flight in December

Y -> WTP for £115 one way - special offer in MMB.
JustLanded is offline  
Old Sep 13, 10, 6:07 am
  #71  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London and Zurich
Programs: AA, BA, Mucci: Sir Roger des Directions Routières, PCR
Posts: 13,609
LHR-JFK September
WT -> WTP £115

This is £60 fare difference and £55 'Tax/Fee/Charge' and seems better value than our LHR-ZRH offer of £100 for ET -> CE.

It also means that I will have travelled in all 5 BA classes at last - or 7 if CW and CE and WT and ET are regarded as separate classes. And yes, former R is part of that.
Roger is offline  
Old Sep 13, 10, 6:52 am
  #72  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 11,924
LHR-DME and DME-LHR, ET to CE, costs £200 each way.
Smirnoff is offline  
Old Sep 13, 10, 7:30 am
  #73  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, HHonors Diamond, Dennis the Menace Fan Club
Posts: 143
Can you do pro-active upgrades on the BA website if you have a multi-city itinerary?

My LHR-ORD-DTW WT+ booking is teasing me with (obviously wrong) £100 upgrades to CW. If you try to purchase them, then the website throws up a "you can't upgrade this flight online error".

I can understand why the website might not be able to handle this, but it shouldn't really show silly prices, should it?
borofergie is offline  
Old Sep 13, 10, 11:04 am
  #74  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: BAEC Brown
Posts: 1,167
Originally Posted by Roger View Post
LHR-JFK September
WT -> WTP £115

This is £60 fare difference and £55 'Tax/Fee/Charge' and seems better value than our LHR-ZRH offer of £100 for ET -> CE.
I agree. The transatlantic upgrade offers are much better value than the European ones. I did the £115 upgrade to BOS a few weeks ago and was then given an OpUp to upper desk CW. I doubt that would have happened if I had still been in Y so from WT to UDCW for £115 was a great bargain!

My next Euro flight is to AGP and that is showing as £150 each way from ET to CW. As a Silver I already get lounge access so it's not good value at all (and I'm not desperate for the extra TPs yet)
Camflyer is offline  
Old Sep 13, 10, 11:20 am
  #75  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tonbridge
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 1,951
Originally Posted by Camflyer View Post
I agree. The transatlantic upgrade offers are much better value than the European ones. I did the £115 upgrade to BOS a few weeks ago and was then given an OpUp to upper desk CW. I doubt that would have happened if I had still been in Y so from WT to UDCW for £115 was a great bargain!

My next Euro flight is to AGP and that is showing as £150 each way from ET to CW. As a Silver I already get lounge access so it's not good value at all (and I'm not desperate for the extra TPs yet)
The additional tier points from WT to WTP is also better than ET - CE (60 versus 35), so better value for money on that front too. Only advantage the CE has over WT+ is the lounge for non-status pax. Oh, and fast track I guess, if you value that greatly.

Last edited by britbronco22; Sep 13, 10 at 11:21 am Reason: to mention fasttrack
britbronco22 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search Engine: