Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Dec 18, 2011, 10:35 am
#706
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LON & MUC
Programs: BA Gold, LH FTL, KL Plat (comped), BD
Posts: 247
I think £79 is now standard as I was offered today on MUC-LHR, having upgraded the outbound for £59 a month or so ago.
I probably wouldn't bite at £59 again, never mind £79 so not too bothered. Regardless of the minimal incremental service increase, I'm not a big fan of the reduction in fare flexibility that comes with the upgrade.
I probably wouldn't bite at £59 again, never mind £79 so not too bothered. Regardless of the minimal incremental service increase, I'm not a big fan of the reduction in fare flexibility that comes with the upgrade.
Hope elasticity of other people is similar to mine and prices will come down again
Dec 18, 2011, 11:35 pm
#707
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: PHL
Programs: AA EXP (1MM), Hyatt, Marriott Gold, HH Diamond
Posts: 396
LHR-EWR world traveller plus to club world for £225 via MMB.
I am seriously considering this offer but I have a feeling that W may be oversold as yesterday the flight was showing J8 W1. I may just save the money and take my slim chances of an OpUp as OneWorld Sapphire.
I am seriously considering this offer but I have a feeling that W may be oversold as yesterday the flight was showing J8 W1. I may just save the money and take my slim chances of an OpUp as OneWorld Sapphire.
Dec 19, 2011, 1:40 am
#708
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,464
LHR-EWR world traveller plus to club world for £225 via MMB.
I am seriously considering this offer but I have a feeling that W may be oversold as yesterday the flight was showing J8 W1. I may just save the money and take my slim chances of an OpUp as OneWorld Sapphire.
I am seriously considering this offer but I have a feeling that W may be oversold as yesterday the flight was showing J8 W1. I may just save the money and take my slim chances of an OpUp as OneWorld Sapphire.
Dec 19, 2011, 1:59 am
#709
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Robin Hood Territory
Programs: BA Silver, MUCCI des Soins Medicaux, Le médecin personnel à PUCCI GALORE
Posts: 1,613
Dec 19, 2011, 2:04 am
#710
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Europe
Programs: BAEC, SAS EBS, Miles&More
Posts: 342
LHR - ARN was £79 one way last week (previously £69 earlier in the autumn).
Dec 19, 2011, 6:25 am
#713
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 10,148
At the end of the day it all depends on your budget and for the vast majority of (normal non FT people
) thats money far better spent.
Dec 19, 2011, 3:59 pm
#714
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MAN/BHX
Programs: ABBA
Posts: 6,027
I've flown CW on 3 occasions
1) Last minute day-flight from ORY-EWR last December. Fine I suppose, but nothing amazing, I would have preferred a decent IFE - W on a 767 for example. Flew back in "Biz Seat", but I'd have got a better nights sleep in Y -- far too much flex in the floor when the heavy-foot cabin crew kept marching up and down
2) Op-up LHR-DEL, again a day flight. I felt more cramped than I do in W (where I'm usually found), and the meal service took a lot out of the flight. Rubbish IFE.
3) Paid upgrade BWI-LHR, night flight, well worth then £250 even for such a short hop.
That said, I find W is a massive improvement on Y, had to fly back in Y from TLV a couple of months ago on a morning flight, far too busy (and people jamming stuff into the seat back) for a decent sleep, not enough room to work. On a shorthaul day flight, CE is great too, on >3hr trips, usually as I'm in a middle seat next to the wife. In CE (which we always take an upgrade at £60) the A/C pair works well. Sadly the ET A/C pair has never worked for us
Perhaps it's what you're used to? SWMBO is used to flying J now, and actually complained that J in the 767 from BWI was a bit shabby compared with the top-deck on 747 that she had outbound. With a potential F flight in a couple of weeks I'm not sure she'll ever be able to go back to a Y seat to SYD.
1) Last minute day-flight from ORY-EWR last December. Fine I suppose, but nothing amazing, I would have preferred a decent IFE - W on a 767 for example. Flew back in "Biz Seat", but I'd have got a better nights sleep in Y -- far too much flex in the floor when the heavy-foot cabin crew kept marching up and down
2) Op-up LHR-DEL, again a day flight. I felt more cramped than I do in W (where I'm usually found), and the meal service took a lot out of the flight. Rubbish IFE.
3) Paid upgrade BWI-LHR, night flight, well worth then £250 even for such a short hop.
That said, I find W is a massive improvement on Y, had to fly back in Y from TLV a couple of months ago on a morning flight, far too busy (and people jamming stuff into the seat back) for a decent sleep, not enough room to work. On a shorthaul day flight, CE is great too, on >3hr trips, usually as I'm in a middle seat next to the wife. In CE (which we always take an upgrade at £60) the A/C pair works well. Sadly the ET A/C pair has never worked for us
Perhaps it's what you're used to? SWMBO is used to flying J now, and actually complained that J in the 767 from BWI was a bit shabby compared with the top-deck on 747 that she had outbound. With a potential F flight in a couple of weeks I'm not sure she'll ever be able to go back to a Y seat to SYD.
Dec 21, 2011, 8:08 am
#715
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Ex Gold, Now Silver :)
Posts: 123
Proactive Upgrade
LAS to LHR proactive upgrade offered from WTP to CW at 225 GBP
LHR TO LAS offered from WTP to CW at 715 GBP
LHR TO LAS offered from WTP to CW at 715 GBP
Dec 22, 2011, 4:52 pm
#716
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: London, England
Programs: BAEC Silver, Aeroplan, Amex Plat
Posts: 120
Nah, apart from there potentially being better things to spend the money on I think stifle kindly checked and all the bulkhead WTP seats were gone so despite the wider seat, better catering etc I still think £159 isn't necessarily worth it. It's to about one-way of an Economy flight to New York in the current BA sale! (£376 return).
Dec 30, 2011, 10:28 am
#717
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: London. Or a plane.
Programs: "Only" 50,000 TPs until BA GGLfL
Posts: 2,774
LHR-HKG, at LHR's "upgrade offer" desk (c20?). J -> F. £399 one-way.
Not bad given it was a £1006 return sale fare in biz, which had "NO UPGRADES" in the fare rules
Not bad given it was a £1006 return sale fare in biz, which had "NO UPGRADES" in the fare rules
Dec 30, 2011, 2:16 pm
#718
Join Date: Jan 2008
Programs: AB Platinum (AB4EVA), IHG Diamond, Dominos Gold
Posts: 956
€69 to upgrade DUS-LHR... wonder if I should go for it...
Dec 30, 2011, 3:16 pm
#719
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