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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
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Old Aug 19, 10, 2:33 pm
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Like HIDDY also got offered £100 o/w LHRFRA ET>CE for a flight next month.

Based on what's been posted to far s/h is obviously done in bands. Anyone know what they are? So far we've got £100 for short hops and £125 for slightly longer ones. Longest? £150?
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Old Aug 19, 10, 2:58 pm
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LHR - DXB (25/6/10) - LHR (4/7/10) in WT booked 03/08/09

Offered upgrades to WT+
12/09 out £84 rtn £240ish
01/10 out £89 rtn £240ish
06/10 out £125 rtn £850ish
OLCI out £125
OLCI rtn £125

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Old Aug 19, 10, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by TravellerFrequently View Post
IST-LHR was more last year, but I am not sure - £150?
£150 is indeed what I have seen for LHR/IST.
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Old Aug 19, 10, 3:14 pm
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Old Aug 19, 10, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by sunrisegirl View Post
£60 - AMS, JER
£80 - Ashamed to say I can't remember, but includes some Italian routes (will check when I'm in over the next few days and update this post)
£100 - FAO, AYT, ADB, PRN, TIA, NAP, SKG
Is it as simple as Band 1 = £60, Band 2 = £80 and Band 3 = £100?
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Old Aug 19, 10, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Phil the Flyer View Post
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but given that BA miles can be purchased in increments of 1,000 (up to 19,000 per annum?) for GBP16 per 1,000 plus a GBP15 handling fee; i.e. 1,000 miles = GBP31 / 19,000 miles = GBP319, does anyone have any recent experience of good 'MFU with miles vs cash upgrade' scenarios?

Despite spending BA miles on a regular basis I've currently got circa 500k miles in our HHA, and having never actually purchased BA miles previously I sometimes suspect that purchasing miles might nonetheless be a good investment.
Phil, if I understand your post, you are questioning how often it is better to buy miles and MFU, rather than paying cash?
Two issues spring to mind, firstly availability for MFU (and having the correct fare bucket to upgrade from) and secondly you earn more miles and TP's by paying cash to upgrade.
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Old Aug 19, 10, 4:19 pm
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LHR-SFO one way WT to WT+ £135, but not book-able online and call centre refuse to deal with it.

Hotline fare, so no great shakes if I could not do anything in terms of upgrade. Fare paid to SFO, £268 return. Bargain.
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Old Aug 19, 10, 4:26 pm
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anyone know if BA offer the same type of upgrades from CW to F?
Got a LIS-LHR-LAX flight coming up next month, and interested to know if its likely to offer an upgrade price on the LHR-LAX segment?? Booked as a Travel Agent ticket so nothing showing on MMB at the moment
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Old Aug 19, 10, 4:44 pm
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anyone know if BA offer the same type of upgrades from CW to F?
Got a LIS-LHR-LAX flight coming up next month, and interested to know if its likely to offer an upgrade price on the LHR-LAX segment?? Booked as a Travel Agent ticket so nothing showing on MMB at the moment
See post 21
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Old Aug 19, 10, 5:50 pm
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last week JFK-LHR US$649 J to F one way

for the return they were looking for US$8000
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Old Aug 19, 10, 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Phil the Flyer View Post
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but given that BA miles can be purchased in increments of 1,000 (up to 19,000 per annum?) for GBP16 per 1,000 plus a GBP15 handling fee; i.e. 1,000 miles = GBP31 / 19,000 miles = GBP319, does anyone have any recent experience of good 'MFU with miles vs cash upgrade' scenarios?

Despite spending BA miles on a regular basis I've currently got circa 500k miles in our HHA, and having never actually purchased BA miles previously I sometimes suspect that purchasing miles might nonetheless be a good investment.
Kind of related but a friend of mine wanted to get back from EBB this September. Not any good deals in price ex-EBB opposed to ex-LHR so decided to go down the miles route for a one-way. I managed to buy 10,000 BA Miles + 2,500 Bonus miles and then use the PCPM using those miles I had just bought and it came in at £363- not bad I thought for a oneway Y ticket
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Old Aug 20, 10, 4:58 am
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[QUOTE=sunrisegirl;14511574]Obviously I'm only talking about upgrades available at the airport, but they're cheaper at LGW than they are at LHR.

I've been hunting for the exact details but can't find the details anywhere right now, but they do go on bands. Some I remember from LGW are:

£60 - AMS, JER
£80 - Ashamed to say I can't remember, but includes some Italian routes (will check when I'm in over the next few days and update this post)
£100 - FAO, AYT, ADB, PRN, TIA, NAP, SKG

A few more examples:
£80 from LGW to Bologna, Venice, Verona, Marseille

£125 from LHR to Nice, Oslo
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Old Aug 24, 10, 6:56 am
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If it's £399 for a HKG-LHR CW -> F upgrade, I'm guessing that would be the case for each sector on BA9 all the way to SYD. Does anyone know if that's the case?

I'm flying CW LHR-SYD in a few weeks and would happily pay £399 to try F for one of the sectors.

Obviously it is subject to availability, but should it be possible, at what point would it become available on an I class booking? At T-24? Or at check-in? Can I do it via MMB or is it only at the airport?

And finally, given BA9 departs at 2200, which sector would be recommended to try F?
It departs LHR at 2200, arrives at 1515 local time in BKK, then departs once again at 1810 from BKK, before arriving around 0620 in SYD. I guess LHR-BKK would be a better bet?
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Old Aug 24, 10, 8:40 am
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LHR-FCO £125 one way. Good for people without status; not so sure for people with status (unless you really need the TPs), especially given the eating options at either end.
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Old Aug 24, 10, 11:10 am
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LHR-MAD and return 125quid each way, which is more expensive than if I had booked club to begin with.
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