Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically Ł59-Ł69 for Band 1, Ł69-Ł79 for Band 2, Ł79-Ł89 for Band 3 and Ł89-Ł99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically Ł59-Ł69 for Band 1, Ł69-Ł79 for Band 2, Ł79-Ł89 for Band 3 and Ł89-Ł99 for Band 4):
- ACE - Ł105
- AGP – Ł79 (Ł99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - Ł69 / Ł56 (Ł99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - Ł99 (Ł109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – Ł72
- BCN – Ł79 (Ł89 for Silver/Bronze and Ł114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - Ł89 / BCN to LHR Ł115)
- BGO – Ł64 (Ł79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - Ł119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - Ł69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (Ł55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - Ł79 (Ł89 and Ł105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - Ł69 (Ł75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - Ł69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - Ł79 (Ł129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - Ł119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – Ł79
- DUB – Ł69/Ł56 (Ł99 from HBO Nov 2014, Ł80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – Ł69
- FCO - Ł170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – Ł69
- GIB - Ł72 (Ł140 Dec 14)
- GOT – Ł79
- GVA - Ł79/Ł89
- HAJ – Ł69
- HAM – Ł69
- HEL – Ł89
- INN – Ł89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – Ł89
- JER – Ł69
- KBP - Ł80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – Ł89 (Ł190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately Ł134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – Ł79
- LIS – Ł79 (Ł119 offered Nov 14, Ł99 and Ł145 Dec 14)
- LUX - Ł69
- MAD - Ł79
- MAH - Ł69
- MUC - Ł79
- MXP - Ł119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - Ł140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - Ł69
- OSL - Ł79 (Ł64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - Ł79/€89
- PMI - Ł69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – Ł79
- PSA - Ł79
- SZG - Ł114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - Ł89
- STR – Ł69
- TIA – Ł89 (Ł99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – Ł79
- TXL – Ł69
- VCE – Ł79
- VIE – Ł79 [Ł129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~Ł110) Nov 2014 - Ł89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – Ł69 (Ł110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – Ł79
- ZRH – Ł79 (Ł87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. Ł69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP Ł189
- BOS – WTP Ł189 (mid-2014) Ł219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP Ł157
- JFK/EWR – WTP Ł189 (can be as low as Ł133) / CW Ł443 / F Ł527 (F Ł599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP Ł180
- LAX – WTP Ł229 / CW Ł599 (CW Ł548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP Ł180
- MEX – F Ł447/Ł525 / Ł229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP Ł209 / CW Ł525
- ORD – WTP Ł171 / CW Ł525 / F Ł499
- PHL – WTP Ł189
- SAN – CW Ł599
- SEA – WTP Ł199
- SFO – WTP Ł170
- YYZ – WTP Ł171 (return leg) / CW Ł425 / F Ł499
- YYC - WTP Ł134
- YVR – WTP Ł175 / CW Ł350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP Ł199
- GRU – WTP Ł209 / F Ł499 / WT to CW Ł699
- GIG - WT to CW Ł699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP Ł126-Ł140 / CW Ł549 / F Ł
- BOM - WTP Ł / CW Ł450 / F Ł
- DEL - F Ł499, subsequently reduced to Ł400
- HKG – WTP Ł199 (offered Ł172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW Ł599 / F Ł599
- NRT - WTP Ł199 / CW Ł / F Ł525
- ICN - CW Ł499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP Ł170 / CW Ł399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F Ł499
- CAI - WTP Ł121
- DXB – WTP Ł179 / F Ł499
- EBB - WTP Ł142
- JNB - WTP Ł209
- NBO - WTP Ł189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F Ł465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE Ł64
- BRU-LHR - CE Ł105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (Ł85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (cŁ395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - Ł189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (cŁ370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
May 7, 2014, 4:43 pm
#3047
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,727
Went to check my MMB, no POUG for SIN-LHR-LIS :-( one month away from flight
May 7, 2014, 5:32 pm
#3048
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
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This has happened to me the few times I've bothered to look - but I've assumed it's because I usually fly from the UK regions to LHR then on to somewhere else. I think this precludes upgrades using avios, and wonder whether there is something similar which prevents it applying to paid upgrades.
Then again I rarely bother checking so I could well be wrong...
Then again I rarely bother checking so I could well be wrong...
May 8, 2014, 1:37 pm
#3049
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May 8, 2014, 1:56 pm
#3050
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 19
Hi everyone,
I have a quick question regarding a situation I am facing - how quickly does one earn a status upgrade from Blue to Bronze?
My partner is currently a Blue with 260 TPs, she has two flights on two PNRs on the same day sometime next month. First sector is DUB-LHR, then long haul flight from LHR later in the day. She stands to earn a difference of 2k avios on the long haul flight if she were Bronze.
POUG just been offered on her first sector for EUR79, which mean she will just "make" it into Bronze right before flying her long haul later in the day, gaining 40 TPs instead of just 10 TP. But does BA automatically regconize her status on the same day?
I am not sure if it's worth it to upgrade, since she will be bronze once she takes the long haul flight (in T)
Thanks
I have a quick question regarding a situation I am facing - how quickly does one earn a status upgrade from Blue to Bronze?
My partner is currently a Blue with 260 TPs, she has two flights on two PNRs on the same day sometime next month. First sector is DUB-LHR, then long haul flight from LHR later in the day. She stands to earn a difference of 2k avios on the long haul flight if she were Bronze.
POUG just been offered on her first sector for EUR79, which mean she will just "make" it into Bronze right before flying her long haul later in the day, gaining 40 TPs instead of just 10 TP. But does BA automatically regconize her status on the same day?
I am not sure if it's worth it to upgrade, since she will be bronze once she takes the long haul flight (in T)
Thanks
May 8, 2014, 1:59 pm
#3051
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, HHonors Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,546
Offered Ł79 on the inbound leg of a day trip HBO fare to BCN, nothing for the outbound.....yet. Appeared exactly 48 hours after booking!
May 8, 2014, 3:34 pm
#3052
Join Date: Aug 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, IHG Spire Elite
Posts: 1,713
Hi everyone,
I have a quick question regarding a situation I am facing - how quickly does one earn a status upgrade from Blue to Bronze?
My partner is currently a Blue with 260 TPs, she has two flights on two PNRs on the same day sometime next month. First sector is DUB-LHR, then long haul flight from LHR later in the day. She stands to earn a difference of 2k avios on the long haul flight if she were Bronze.
POUG just been offered on her first sector for EUR79, which mean she will just "make" it into Bronze right before flying her long haul later in the day, gaining 40 TPs instead of just 10 TP. But does BA automatically regconize her status on the same day?
I am not sure if it's worth it to upgrade, since she will be bronze once she takes the long haul flight (in T)
Thanks
I have a quick question regarding a situation I am facing - how quickly does one earn a status upgrade from Blue to Bronze?
My partner is currently a Blue with 260 TPs, she has two flights on two PNRs on the same day sometime next month. First sector is DUB-LHR, then long haul flight from LHR later in the day. She stands to earn a difference of 2k avios on the long haul flight if she were Bronze.
POUG just been offered on her first sector for EUR79, which mean she will just "make" it into Bronze right before flying her long haul later in the day, gaining 40 TPs instead of just 10 TP. But does BA automatically regconize her status on the same day?
I am not sure if it's worth it to upgrade, since she will be bronze once she takes the long haul flight (in T)
Thanks
This is fairly standard practice and something I have had to do once.
May 8, 2014, 3:45 pm
#3053
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 19
If she takes the POUG on the short haul the system won't update in time for the long haul sector. If she fills out an online claim for missing Avios on the BA website after her long haul flight they will credit her Avios for the long haul flight.
This is fairly standard practice and something I have had to do once.
This is fairly standard practice and something I have had to do once.
May 8, 2014, 3:56 pm
#3054
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Switzerland/West Coast
Programs: BAEC Gold, Amex Platinum
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I recently booked BSL-MAN via LHR in July, and the outbound flight was only about 30 Ł more expensive in CE than in ET. Same for the return flight, but availability was limited to the flight that lands in BSL at 22.15, so not all that interesting. Still, that's either a really cheap CE seat or a really expensive ET seat.
May 10, 2014, 3:31 pm
#3055
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Am I correct in thinking POUGs are not offered on BA Holidays (Flight+Hotel) bookings, as they are treated as TA bookings? I'm assuming POUGs will be offered (subject to availability) at OLCI?
May 10, 2014, 3:41 pm
#3056
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: London
Programs: BA
Posts: 2,368
POUGs can appear at OLCI though again I was told with a child and a vegan meal in my booking, I wouldn't be offered a POUG at OLCI.
May 10, 2014, 4:38 pm
#3057
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC Silver, ITA Club Executive, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 3,599
I once got a similar offer over the phone. It could've just been the fare difference, but the price was the same of a POUG for that route. Worth giving a call to BA holiday to see what price they can offer you.
May 11, 2014, 9:40 am
#3058
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 141
I checked availability for my flight to EWR next month, and both WT+ and CW are pretty empty. Like with AUP, can you call BA for upgrade possibilities for a fixed fee as mentioned above? I did book my trip through a travel agency
May 11, 2014, 10:41 am
#3059
Join Date: Aug 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, IHG Spire Elite
Posts: 1,713
You can only upgrade a TA booking through the TA, not with BA. That is until you get to the airport where you can take an AUP if offered.