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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
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Old Aug 19, 10, 12:00 pm
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On the CE fares, is everyone sure that these are bargains? Unless the starting Y fare is next to nothing (or at least less than £50), some of the upgrades quoted sound no more than the CE R fare. For instance LHR-DUS is only about £150 each way in CE, so is £100 extra each way for CE upgrade that good?
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Old Aug 19, 10, 12:08 pm
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LHR -LAX 300pounds WT+ to J
LAX -LHR 350 pounds WT+ to J

yhis was about a month ago
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Old Aug 19, 10, 12:23 pm
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LHR-JFK: £513.09 WT to WT+;
JFK-LHR: £326.40 WT to WT+.

'Save' £90.00 by upgrading both flights for a total cost of £749.49.
(future booking)
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Old Aug 19, 10, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by FrancisA View Post
On the CE fares, is everyone sure that these are bargains? Unless the starting Y fare is next to nothing (or at least less than £50), some of the upgrades quoted sound no more than the CE R fare. For instance LHR-DUS is only about £150 each way in CE, so is £100 extra each way for CE upgrade that good?
This correct unless your employer has a Y or W only policy for travel. The hit for the PAX will then only be the upgrade costs, which makes it ok to good value.

As always YMMV.
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Old Aug 19, 10, 1:11 pm
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GBP399 J to F, HKG - LHR Autumn last year
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Old Aug 19, 10, 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by FrancisA View Post
On the CE fares, is everyone sure that these are bargains? Unless the starting Y fare is next to nothing (or at least less than £50), some of the upgrades quoted sound no more than the CE R fare. For instance LHR-DUS is only about £150 each way in CE, so is £100 extra each way for CE upgrade that good?
For upgrades from ET to CE, I think the upgrade amount will usually bring your total payment to more than if you had booked CE in the first place. For example, LGW - AMS, the upgrade amount is £60, but the difference between ET and CE can be only £50 at the time of booking.
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LHR-OSL 125 GBP

Seems that a zone two CE upgrade is about 125 GBP if LHR-VIE is 125 GBP. Only worth it for the TP
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Old Aug 19, 10, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by sunrisegirl View Post
There are set rates for airport upgrades and I've heard of no plans to change these any time in the near future.

On long haul it costs:

£150 to upgrade from WT to WT+
£399 from WT+ to CW

Short haul from LGW are £60, £80 or £100 depending on route. I'm about to go out but will list the routes each price is applicable on later.
Am I correct in thinking upgrades at the airport do not earn the higher rate of tier points?

It would be good to know which of the rates quoted on this thread actually earn the related tier points.
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Old Aug 19, 10, 1:54 pm
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Do TA Bookings get offered these?
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Do TA Bookings get offered these?
Not until BA take over the ticket T-24.
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£100 to upgrade from BRU-LHR and similiar, IIRC, for DUS-LHR from Y to J.

IST-LHR was more last year, but I am not sure - £150?

In December last year, I paid £125 for the upgrade to CE for LIN-LHR.

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Old Aug 19, 10, 2:26 pm
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Airport upgrades earn full tier points, but you have to write in to claim them as they don't post automatically.
Thanks, that is very good to know. A bit of an urban myth going on there then, I'm sure I have read that in some other threads.
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Old Aug 19, 10, 2:28 pm
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I'm sure this has been discussed before, but given that BA miles can be purchased in increments of 1,000 (up to 19,000 per annum?) for GBP16 per 1,000 plus a GBP15 handling fee; i.e. 1,000 miles = GBP31 / 19,000 miles = GBP319, does anyone have any recent experience of good 'MFU with miles vs cash upgrade' scenarios?

Despite spending BA miles on a regular basis I've currently got circa 500k miles in our HHA, and having never actually purchased BA miles previously I sometimes suspect that purchasing miles might nonetheless be a good investment.
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