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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

Old Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

Old Mar 26, 2014, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by IanAsiaTraveller
Without trawling back through every page I don't know what "MMB" is but I usually get offered an upgrade from ET to CE when I check in online. Normally LHR - Paris is £69 one-way but this week it's £56, maybe because I booked when there were some very competitive prices during the Christmas sale?
MMB = Manage My Booking

POUG prices are variable last few months
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 3:33 pm
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4 weeks before.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 5:13 pm
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Originally Posted by MPH1980
Being offered £300 for a WTP->CW upgrade on LHR->YYZ right now.
Just had another look. The price has gone down.

By £1.

Suddenly I'm going to pounce on this new price of £299 ... not ...
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 8:36 pm
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YYZ->LHR both directions WT to WTP $245
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 9:52 pm
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Just been offered £399 to upgrade NRT to LHR WT+ to CW but the only seat available was in the centre
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 1:00 am
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Lhr - dfw, wtp - cw, £599 aup
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 5:21 am
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LHR - HKG £290 WT to WT+

(Not my Manilla flight, another booking)

seems expensive....think I'll probably try and grab the exit seat (A380).
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 5:40 am
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Non POUG I've been offered £7,000 BSL-LHR and £10,000 ZRH-LHR :-)
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 8:37 am
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Just been offered DUS for £56 on an HBO fare.

It's tempting but I'm not getting any status this year even with 80 TP there and back and my year refreshes two weeks later.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 3:34 pm
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Looking at my parents booking i'm seeing BGO - LHR for £79. Not very interesting in itself but the offer has appeared in a travel agent booking with the outbound already flown - has that started happening recently? I thought TA bookings still couldn't be upgraded through MMB.

Does BGO have a nice enough lounge to make surprising my parents with an upgrade worthwhile? They already have the CE style row behind the curtain so no gain there and TPs are not an issue though the bonus avios would be nice.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by OldHigsonian
The wiki defines POUG as the thing on MMB and excludes airport bought upgrades. So what are airport bought upgrades called?

Are the prices quoted on here exclusively POUG?
Originally Posted by exilencfc
Looking at my parents booking i'm seeing BGO - LHR for £79. Not very interesting in itself but the offer has appeared in a travel agent booking with the outbound already flown - has that started happening recently? I thought TA bookings still couldn't be upgraded through MMB.

Does BGO have a nice enough lounge to make surprising my parents with an upgrade worthwhile? They already have the CE style row behind the curtain so no gain there and TPs are not an issue though the bonus avios would be nice.
Last time I was in BGO there was no lounge. While I'd like to think that has changed... I doubt it! SVG has no lounge either - it's a rather Norwegian thing.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by exilencfc
Looking at my parents booking i'm seeing BGO - LHR for £79. Not very interesting in itself but the offer has appeared in a travel agent booking with the outbound already flown - has that started happening recently? I thought TA bookings still couldn't be upgraded through MMB.

Does BGO have a nice enough lounge to make surprising my parents with an upgrade worthwhile? They already have the CE style row behind the curtain so no gain there and TPs are not an issue though the bonus avios would be nice.
I get these offers a lot on returns on a TA booking - have done for years.

I find I don't tend to get them on the outbound.

Having said that - I've found that once the flight gets within airport control - suddenly I can do everything (including upgrade directly with cash) - but I've still never had a POUG on an outbound TA booking.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by flashware
Last time I was in BGO there was no lounge. While I'd like to think that has changed... I doubt it! SVG has no lounge either - it's a rather Norwegian thing.
Thanks for the info

Originally Posted by MPH1980
I get these offers a lot on returns on a TA booking - have done for years.

I find I don't tend to get them on the outbound.

Having said that - I've found that once the flight gets within airport control - suddenly I can do everything (including upgrade directly with cash) - but I've still never had a POUG on an outbound TA booking.
Interesting stuff
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Old Mar 28, 2014, 12:04 am
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Originally Posted by exilencfc
Thanks for the info



Interesting stuff
That being said, my wife and I are back there in May - so if there has been any changes, please let us know ^
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Old Mar 28, 2014, 12:12 am
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Originally Posted by MPH1980
I get these offers a lot on returns on a TA booking - have done for years.

I find I don't tend to get them on the outbound.

Having said that - I've found that once the flight gets within airport control - suddenly I can do everything (including upgrade directly with cash) - but I've still never had a POUG on an outbound TA booking.
Re outbound, when it reaches the T-24 mark don't OLCI. Instead visit MMB and POUG will be offered if available. Happened on plenty of occasions over the last 18months for me.
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