Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Sep 16, 2013, 4:58 am
#2341
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If you are happy with the price, I'd take it. Remember you will get TP's and avios for CW.
Sep 16, 2013, 12:25 pm
#2342
Join Date: Aug 2006
Programs: BAEC Gold/GGL, IHG Diamond AMB
Posts: 1,074
Just took DUB both ways at £69 each way. Needed TP and lounge access handy too as currently Bronze. Great instant 60TPs 
Sep 17, 2013, 2:53 pm
#2343
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: usually LON
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This morning whilst looking to UUA from WT+ LHR-LAX on the A380 I was offered a POUG to CW for £599. Any ideas on whether this makes it more or less likely that award space will open up at some point?
I'd edit the Wiki post but I assume I'm not seeing an edit button because I haven't (yet) made enough posts.
I'd edit the Wiki post but I assume I'm not seeing an edit button because I haven't (yet) made enough posts.
Impossible to tell - 'usual' availability, POUGs and award availability seem to be separate processes, although they should be evaluated together (at least at some point of time).
Sep 18, 2013, 4:51 pm
#2344
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: AUH
Posts: 8,265
For what it's worth, a recent example of BA18 (ICN-LHR) mid-September:
- No reward availability in J for at least 2 months and did not open up before the flight. (W briefly had a few open reward seats a few days before the flight)
- Lower classes of J, and all of W and Y all zero for the same time period
- POUG offered for inbound trip once online check-in opened for the outbound (end-August) and offer stayed open throughout
- Invol upgraded W->J at check-in, every seat taken in J, W and Y onboard.
- No reward availability in J for at least 2 months and did not open up before the flight. (W briefly had a few open reward seats a few days before the flight)
- Lower classes of J, and all of W and Y all zero for the same time period
- POUG offered for inbound trip once online check-in opened for the outbound (end-August) and offer stayed open throughout
- Invol upgraded W->J at check-in, every seat taken in J, W and Y onboard.
Sep 18, 2013, 5:21 pm
#2345
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: AA Explat / UA Silver
Posts: 598
Just took DUB-LHR for eur69.
Booked on top of a 69eur ticket to go with BOS-DUB redemption for 25,000 avios and $30usd. Doing pretty well, I'd say.
Booked on top of a 69eur ticket to go with BOS-DUB redemption for 25,000 avios and $30usd. Doing pretty well, I'd say.
Sep 18, 2013, 7:07 pm
#2346
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Here there everywhere
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Both LHR-BKK and BKK-LHR £549 to go from WTP to CW in MMB.
Not taken up on OB as had my favorite 16K, holding out for op-up IB as everything 0 except J5 C2.
Not taken up on OB as had my favorite 16K, holding out for op-up IB as everything 0 except J5 C2.
Sep 19, 2013, 2:17 am
#2347
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: KYE
Posts: 4,156
79GBP upgraded from ET to EC for LHR-MUC next week. (originally paid 205GBP for the eco fare).
Sep 20, 2013, 2:15 am
#2348
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,707
79GBP offered LGW-VCE both ways (paid 92.50 for the HLO return fare inc cc fees). Undecided on whether I should or not...
Sep 20, 2013, 4:04 am
#2349
Suspended
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Location: London
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I fear I have offended the POUG gods.
After a little bit of long haul I will comfortably be silver next year, I could probably make gold too but ever since my long haul adventures, zero poug on my ET trips. I always got POUG and now not one in six return trips
After a little bit of long haul I will comfortably be silver next year, I could probably make gold too but ever since my long haul adventures, zero poug on my ET trips. I always got POUG and now not one in six return trips
Sep 20, 2013, 4:08 am
#2350
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LHR-CPH £79
Sep 20, 2013, 4:16 am
#2351
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LHR-BRU £69
Sep 21, 2013, 3:47 am
#2352
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: London, UK
Programs: Not much these days: BA Silver, Bonvoy Lifetime Gold, HH Gold
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LHR-IST £109
Wondered if it was worth adding date of info for each price to the wiki so that people can tell how recent the info is?
Wondered if it was worth adding date of info for each price to the wiki so that people can tell how recent the info is?
Sep 23, 2013, 12:25 am
#2353
Join Date: Dec 2006
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I was originally booked to fly in Y on this afternoon's BA198 from BOM to LHR. I got to the check-in desk and asked if there were any upgrade offers available. The agent mistakenly assumed I was in CW and quoted a price of approx INR 35,000 to F. After discovering I was in Y, she told me that the price to WT+ was INR 13,650 (approx £135) which I took immediately.
Sep 23, 2013, 10:22 am
#2354
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Offered $800 (~£500) to upgrade WT+ to J for BOS-LHR, if you want to know an inbound offer. A little spendy for me.
Sep 23, 2013, 1:39 pm
#2355
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