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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
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Old Aug 16, 13, 5:27 am
  #2251  
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Originally Posted by olybeast View Post
You need your head examined
Well worth it. About £40 an hour to have a flat bed, plenty of personal space and the chance of a decent sleep to arrive halfway fresh.
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Old Aug 16, 13, 6:33 am
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Dear BA, please provide POUG from/to regions. You missed out on 2x£79 early this month by not offering it on your ex-LIS flight. Plenty of seats dotted arround in CE, and when I asked I was offered it at the airport, but they had no meals loaded, and at that late stage there weren't 3 seats together (one of us was already in CE)

I'd have taken it on the way out too.

Originally Posted by Swanhunter View Post
Well worth it. About £40 an hour to have a flat bed, plenty of personal space and the chance of a decent sleep to arrive halfway fresh.
On a westbound day flight?

Originally Posted by PlatinumJK View Post
How do we make a Wiki? Anyone else see value in one which only tracks the red bar POUG offers?

I'm dying to know what a WT+ to CW POUG might cost for LHR-MIA and a Wiki would make it easier to find that info!

If anyone agrees, I'll give it a crack!
Click "Thread Rules", and "Create a wikipost".
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Old Aug 16, 13, 9:45 am
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BA273 LHR-SAN 24th August 2013.

MMB shows limited upgrade offer.

£599 for WTP to CW.

WTP was pretty expensive when I booked it. So, I am not excited about this offer. I would have been tempted had they offered it for the return flight which is a red-eye and then some.
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Old Aug 16, 13, 9:53 am
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OK - I took a stab at the Wiki using the data from the last few pages... Obviously still a work in progress. If it sucks - will gladly delete it. Just thought it was easier to find the official POUG rates this way, rather than searching through the thread.

And it would save questions from people like me, who can't be bothered to sift through 50+ pages to see if someone has already mentioned the rate or not!
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Old Aug 16, 13, 10:49 am
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Thank you for taking the time to do that!

Presumably, by "WT+" you mean the rate to upgrade from WT to WT+, and so on (as it doesn't make sense otherwise). I wonder whether it would be worth spelling that out to try to head off the inevitable question?
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Old Aug 16, 13, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by Globaliser View Post
Thank you for taking the time to do that!

Presumably, by "WT+" you mean the rate to upgrade from WT to WT+, and so on (as it doesn't make sense otherwise). I wonder whether it would be worth spelling that out to try to head off the inevitable question?
My pleasure! I know I'll use it as much as anyone else once I manage to get more data into it.

And quite right you are, which is why I was never cut out to be a rocket scientist. Wiki updated with a rather verbal explanation (I will work on a shorter way of delivering the point on the train home, but suggestions welcome!) I'm glad that at least it was easy enough to infer what was meant.
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Old Aug 16, 13, 12:04 pm
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Eternal glory to PlatinumJK!
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Old Aug 17, 13, 2:56 am
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Upgrades with money for HEL-LHR flights are €89 a leg. Usually also a very good availability. On top of the €40 + 15 000 Avios redemption tickets for HEL-LHR-HEL, hardly not too much. I would however spend another 15 000 Avios instead of handing out €178 for the pleasantries of CE but there seems to be never any CE redemption availability for the same flights.
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Old Aug 17, 13, 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by blindy View Post
BA273 LHR-SAN 24th August 2013.

MMB shows limited upgrade offer.

£599 for WTP to CW.

WTP was pretty expensive when I booked it. So, I am not excited about this offer. I would have been tempted had they offered it for the return flight which is a red-eye and then some.
This it expensive... Since it's a 3 class bird with no F, not worth it.
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Old Aug 17, 13, 4:12 pm
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Yes, the WT+ to CW upgrade prices have been going up........
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Old Aug 18, 13, 11:03 am
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Does BA give any POUG offer on flights operated by AA metal (BA flight number) across the Atlantic from C to F?
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Old Aug 18, 13, 11:20 am
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LHR-NRT WT to WTP £199 (used to be £179), added to the wikipost
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Old Aug 18, 13, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by Skipcool3 View Post
Yes, the WT+ to CW upgrade prices have been going up........
It seems that way. I've paid £400 on LHR-SFO in the past, but if I was asked for £500 or £600 (as reported above on other NA routes), I'd turn it down. I'd consider paying up to £500 on the return overnight flight, depending on what I had to do when I returned.

What BA need to do is introduce a bidding process for upgrades.
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Old Aug 18, 13, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Paralytic View Post
What BA need to do is introduce a bidding process for upgrades.
Being discussed here
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Old Aug 18, 13, 3:36 pm
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CHF 99.00 to upgrade a GVA-LHR sector next week, which came out to £69 more or less.
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