Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Jul 22, 2013, 7:59 am
#2191
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Bath, Toronto, Hamburg, Seoul
Programs: BA Gold, *A Silver
Posts: 481
I had an MMB offer to upgrade my LCY - AMS flight from Y to D class for £20 and AMS - LCY on same class for £39.99
Also 2 weeks ago had an airport offer to upgrade my WT to WT+ from LHR- LAX for £200 (should have taken it since I was surrounded by crying babies).... the sanity and peace was worth more than £200....
Also 2 weeks ago had an airport offer to upgrade my WT to WT+ from LHR- LAX for £200 (should have taken it since I was surrounded by crying babies).... the sanity and peace was worth more than £200....
£200 for LHR-LAX seems very reasonable. By the way, does anyone know if you get a POUG to WT+ does that mean it can then be UUAd to CW? Would be a lovely little bonus if that was the case!
Jul 22, 2013, 8:06 am
#2192
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: BA Gold, QF WP
Posts: 12,551
Jul 25, 2013, 9:41 am
#2193
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: BA blue,, aeroplan 25K
Posts: 1,027
Need answers :) thanks
Booked ET LHR to Pisa return great price months ago. Been watching the upgrades and have varied between £ 150-308 per person to CE
Then 2 days ago the LHR PSA leg drops to £79 2 seats only so i snagged them to get the extra TPs just 48 prior to departure and the return leg which is not for a week is still showing £308. Not doing that for 30 extra TPs. Any one with any experience if its likely to drop ?
Thanks
Then 2 days ago the LHR PSA leg drops to £79 2 seats only so i snagged them to get the extra TPs just 48 prior to departure and the return leg which is not for a week is still showing £308. Not doing that for 30 extra TPs. Any one with any experience if its likely to drop ?
Thanks
Jul 25, 2013, 10:08 am
#2194
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,565
Surely you can answer your own question by your own experiences with the outbound. It might drop yes just like it varied from £150-308. There is also the possibility for an airport upgrade sold in PSA for €100.
Jul 25, 2013, 10:48 am
#2195
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: BA blue,, aeroplan 25K
Posts: 1,027
The inbound has been sitting at £304.51 for a couple of weeks and I wasn't sure if that was related to demand or not. I have never looked no tried to get an upgrade on the website before with cash. I was hoping some of the more knowledgable would have more experience on the chances of this price dropping closer to the departure day is all !
I will ask at PSA and if its available for around €100 very close to the £79 I'll likely take it there. But thanks for your response anyway
I hadn't considered asking at PSA
Jul 25, 2013, 11:59 am
#2196
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lewes
Programs: HiltonH. Gold Starwood Gold BA BLUES! Mucci.
Posts: 4,833
aircrashsurvivor.... I am not sure IF poug are offered on-line after you have flown the outbound sector, but on my short trips to Italy they have often appeared 2-4 days out (and sometimes much earlier.)
Please be aware that many flights are reverse catered from London.
I have recently flown back from Dublin to LHR and AMS to LGW and had no catering in CE which was annoying, and 'compensated' by 6,000 avios.
On my most recent flight I was checking-in at the airport (back to London) and I asked about the Upgrade, yes I could upgrade....
Me: Will there be any Club Europe Catering for me?
Reply: er "I can not guarantee it"
Me " Why is that"
Reply : Well plane is catered in LON-DON so if all business passenger turn up, no.
So there you have it. I decided to remain in my favourite seat 12F on the 737 and save myself another 100e
More revenue lost, BA!!!!
Further sticky tip, If you are upgrading before you leave, it may be worth getting a special meal for the inbound to guarantee you get it, i.e Seafood.
This in now my way of actually getting the service I pay for!!
YMMV
Regards
Skip.
Please be aware that many flights are reverse catered from London.
I have recently flown back from Dublin to LHR and AMS to LGW and had no catering in CE which was annoying, and 'compensated' by 6,000 avios.
On my most recent flight I was checking-in at the airport (back to London) and I asked about the Upgrade, yes I could upgrade....
Me: Will there be any Club Europe Catering for me?
Reply: er "I can not guarantee it"
Me " Why is that"
Reply : Well plane is catered in LON-DON so if all business passenger turn up, no.
So there you have it. I decided to remain in my favourite seat 12F on the 737 and save myself another 100e
More revenue lost, BA!!!!
Further sticky tip, If you are upgrading before you leave, it may be worth getting a special meal for the inbound to guarantee you get it, i.e Seafood.
This in now my way of actually getting the service I pay for!!
YMMV
Regards
Skip.
Jul 29, 2013, 10:04 am
#2197
Join Date: May 2012
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 291
Hi,
i have been proposed an upgrade from WT to WT+ on JFK-LHR flight for 189 GBP.
Still not sure if i may take it since i have quite a good seat in WT.
I would consider taking it, if i could make sure i can have a WT+ window seat. i don't want to pay for the POUG and then realize i am in the middle of the cabin.
Has anyone a view on which seats are available? (maybe through KVS).
Flight is BA0176 on Wednesday 31st July.
Thanks
i have been proposed an upgrade from WT to WT+ on JFK-LHR flight for 189 GBP.
Still not sure if i may take it since i have quite a good seat in WT.
I would consider taking it, if i could make sure i can have a WT+ window seat. i don't want to pay for the POUG and then realize i am in the middle of the cabin.
Has anyone a view on which seats are available? (maybe through KVS).
Flight is BA0176 on Wednesday 31st July.
Thanks
Jul 29, 2013, 10:31 am
#2198
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: LHR
Programs: DL DM 2MM, BA Bronze, Various Hotels
Posts: 10,187
Hi,
i have been proposed an upgrade from WT to WT+ on JFK-LHR flight for 189 GBP.
Still not sure if i may take it since i have quite a good seat in WT.
I would consider taking it, if i could make sure i can have a WT+ window seat. i don't want to pay for the POUG and then realize i am in the middle of the cabin.
Has anyone a view on which seats are available? (maybe through KVS).
Flight is BA0176 on Wednesday 31st July.
Thanks
i have been proposed an upgrade from WT to WT+ on JFK-LHR flight for 189 GBP.
Still not sure if i may take it since i have quite a good seat in WT.
I would consider taking it, if i could make sure i can have a WT+ window seat. i don't want to pay for the POUG and then realize i am in the middle of the cabin.
Has anyone a view on which seats are available? (maybe through KVS).
Flight is BA0176 on Wednesday 31st July.
Thanks
Jul 29, 2013, 10:37 am
#2199
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lewes
Programs: HiltonH. Gold Starwood Gold BA BLUES! Mucci.
Posts: 4,833
You can also do a "dummy" booking on B.A. com
Jul 29, 2013, 12:14 pm
#2200
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 12,949
[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.3/Diamond - Seat Map: 31 Jul 2013/BA 176/JFK-LHR/744/W-Premium Economy]
Code:
A B | D E F G | J K 28 - - - - + - [E] 29 - - + + + + - - [E] 30 - - + + + + - - [W] 31 - + + + + + - - [W] [+] Available [W] Wing [L] Lavatory [-] Unavailable [E] Exit Row [U] Upper Deck [P] Preferred [|] Aisle
Jul 31, 2013, 4:12 am
#2201
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: ORD
Programs: BA, AA, SQ, UA, AC, WS, MR TIT
Posts: 8,658
There you go:
[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.3/Diamond - Seat Map: 31 Jul 2013/BA 176/JFK-LHR/744/W-Premium Economy]
[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.3/Diamond - Seat Map: 31 Jul 2013/BA 176/JFK-LHR/744/W-Premium Economy]
Code:
A B | D E F G | J K 28 - - - - + - [E] 29 - - + + + + - - [E] 30 - - + + + + - - [W] 31 - + + + + + - - [W] [+] Available [W] Wing [L] Lavatory [-] Unavailable [E] Exit Row [U] Upper Deck [P] Preferred [|] Aisle
Aug 1, 2013, 5:10 am
#2202
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: WC1
Programs: BAEC Gold, SK *G, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 660
Was offered an upgrade from Y to CE on LHR-SVG both ways for £79 each. Needed the TPs quite badly so took up the offer!
Aug 1, 2013, 12:50 pm
#2203
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SZD
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 674
Booked a LHR-HAJ return in ET yesterday. MMB is showing £69 each way for POUG to CE.
Aug 1, 2013, 2:58 pm
#2204
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL (for now) and Lifetime Gold, Marriott fan thanks to Bonvoy Moments
Posts: 5,115
Stumbled back into thread and saw my old post, thought I should take a look at MMB - 650 NOK, c. £72 for upgrade. Extra TPs put me on 2890 by mid-September, with November y/e. Worth the extra so I can give myself option of a quick TP run to reach 3000 and shot at GGL.
Aug 2, 2013, 5:28 am
#2205
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Location: London and Zurich
Programs: AA, BA, Mucci: Sir Roger des Directions Routières, PCR
Posts: 13,609
I booked LHR-ZRH for two in November a couple of days ago. MMB shows a 'limited special offer' of £79 each way p.p. for upgrade to CE.
The flights are 3 1/2 months away.
Is the offer likely to disappear or even improve with time?
Thanks.
The flights are 3 1/2 months away.
Is the offer likely to disappear or even improve with time?Thanks.