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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.

All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):

ACE - £105
AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
ARN – £72
BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
BRU - £69
BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
DBV – £79
DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
DUS – £69
FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
FRA – £69
GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
GOT – £79
GVA - £79/£89
HAJ – £69
HAM – £69
HEL – £89
INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
IST – £89
JER – £69
KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
LIN – £79
LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
LUX - £69
MAD - £79
MAH - £69
MUC - £79
MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
ORY - £69
OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
OTP - £79/€89
PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
PRG – £79
PSA - £79
SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
SOF - £89
STR – £69
TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
TRN – £79
TXL – £69
VCE – £79
VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
ZAG – £79
ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

ATL - WTP £189
BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
IAD - WTP £157
JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
LAS - WTP £180
LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
MCO– WTP £180
MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
PHL – WTP £189
SAN – CW £599
SEA – WTP £199
SFO – WTP £170
YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
YYC - WTP £134
YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350

LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

EZE – WTP £199
GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
GIG - WT to CW £699

LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
ICN - CW £499
SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399

LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

AUH – F £499
CAI - WTP £121
DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
EBB - WTP £142
JNB - WTP £209
NBO - WTP £189

Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

SYD-SIN – F £465
AMS-LGW - CE €79
BCN-LHR - CE £64
BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
CDG-LHR - CE €79
DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
JNB-LHR WTP - £189
TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)

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Nov 22, 2010, 2:38 pm

#166

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanhunter

GBP399, about 30% of the time this year. The appearance of the offer closely correlates with me being upgraded so unsurprisingly I have not taken advantage yet. A close reading of the loads and F seat map will give s good steer.

Thanks. Pity, my flight is showing F5 J9. Seems to be very little chance of an OLCI offer then!

Nov 22, 2010, 11:45 pm

#167

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MileHighLawyer

OTP-LHR one-way £232 quoted on OLCI. £169 + £60 fee + £3 tax. Couldn't really justify it for a three-hour flight...

OLCI now offering 'special offer' of £150 all-in for same flight. Took it. Saved £82 by waiting until day of travel!

Nov 23, 2010, 12:08 am

#168

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Great result!

Nov 23, 2010, 6:00 am

#169

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Asked for upgrade offer from WT+ to CW at JFK last week. Still offered at $400 as witnessed before.

Also works on redemption tickets...you might need to insist. The BA agent sometimes has to make a phone call to get confirmation.

Nov 23, 2010, 8:44 am

#170

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I'm flying DEN-LHR-MAN on 12/23 to visit my parents for Christmas. I'm picking up the tab this time rather than my company so I'm on a cheap Y ticket.

I'd like to try and pay to upgrade myself into at least WT+ if possible, whats the best way to approach this - I'm expecting the flight to be pretty packed anyway, should I see what is offered at OLCI or try my luck at the airport?

Nov 29, 2010, 1:09 am

#171

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NickRe2000

Here's the WT+ seat map for the DEN flight on 12/23

Code:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Platinum - Amadeus Seat Map: 23 Dec 2010/BA 218/DEN-LHR/777/W-Economy]

       A   B    |   D   E   F   G    |   J   K       
12     +   +        +   -   -   +        +   +      W
13     +   +        +   +   +   +        +   +      W
14     +   +        +   +   +   +        +   +      W

[+] Available   [-] Unavailable    [E] Exit Row   
[W] Wing        [L] Lavatory       [U] Upper Deck

Also availability in W is showing as 9, so plenty of seats available for sale. Indeed the 12EF pair in the seat map above are probably blocked bassinet positions.

Are you seeing any upgrade offers in MMB?

Nov 29, 2010, 4:02 am

#172

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Camflyer

If you cannot get the booking ref beforehand then there is a desk in T5 dedicated to paid upgrades (at least there has been for the last few months).

Can someone please give directions to where this desk actually is located. Thanks.

Nov 29, 2010, 7:58 am

#173

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BA or bust

Can someone please give directions to where this desk actually is located. Thanks.

I believe it's at Customer Services North, which again from memory is near the A10 gate entrance.

Nov 29, 2010, 8:01 am

#174

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FenLandK

I believe it's at Customer Services North, which again from memory is near the A10 gate entrance.

I thought it was right in front of the lift/stairs to the B gates...

Nov 29, 2010, 8:17 am

#175

NickRe2000

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FenLandK

Here's the WT+ seat map for the DEN flight on 12/23

Code:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Platinum - Amadeus Seat Map: 23 Dec 2010/BA 218/DEN-LHR/777/W-Economy]

       A   B    |   D   E   F   G    |   J   K       
12     +   +        +   -   -   +        +   +      W
13     +   +        +   +   +   +        +   +      W
14     +   +        +   +   +   +        +   +      W

[+] Available   [-] Unavailable    [E] Exit Row   
[W] Wing        [L] Lavatory       [U] Upper Deck

Thanks for this - great info ^

MMB shows the upgrade cost as 884.50GBP which is more than I want to pay, is guess its likely to get cheaper nearer the time, especially if all those seats remain open?

Nov 29, 2010, 8:59 am

#176

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Teece

I thought it was right in front of the lift/stairs to the B gates...

That's Customer Services South, I think. I think the upgrades are handled at North, though it's entirely possible that I am incorrect

Nov 29, 2010, 10:40 am

#177

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FenLandK

That's Customer Services South, I think. I think the upgrades are handled at North, though it's entirely possible that I am incorrect

I've seen the screens showing "Upgrade offer" at CS South.

Nov 29, 2010, 12:58 pm

#178

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FenLandK

Indeed the 12EF pair in the seat map above are probably blocked bassinet positions.

That is correct:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Diamond - Amadeus Enhanced Seat Map: 23 Dec 2010/BA 218/DEN-LHR/777/W]

Code:

     A  B  |  D  E  F  G  |  J  K  
12   +  +     +  X  X  +     +  +  
13   +  +     +  +  +  +     +  +  
14   +  +     +  +  +  +     +  +  

[+] Available   [-] Unavailable
[P] Preferred   [X] Blocked    
[G] Galley

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Nov 29, 2010, 3:47 pm

#179

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanhunter

I've seen the screens showing "Upgrade offer" at CS South.

See, I said someone would be along to prove me wrong...

Nov 30, 2010, 1:53 am

#180

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FenLandK

See, I said someone would be along to prove me wrong...

I wouldn't be surprised to see them being dealt with at both. After all, it's the same system throughout the terminal