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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
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Old Jan 23, 13, 1:21 am
  #1651  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Heading MAN to JFK tomorrow, any idea of upgrade fare?

Hi all,

I have never upgraded, however I could reach Silver if I were to upgrade my Q economy ticket on flight from MAN to JFK. Is that even possible with cash at the airport? It's a TA ticket so not an option in MMB.
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Old Jan 23, 13, 4:03 am
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Originally Posted by greyguy1 View Post
Hi all,

I have never upgraded, however I could reach Silver if I were to upgrade my Q economy ticket on flight from MAN to JFK. Is that even possible with cash at the airport? It's a TA ticket so not an option in MMB.
Yes, assuming space is available, you can do this at either MAN or LHR. Even if they say it's not available at MAN, do try at LHR
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Old Jan 23, 13, 4:37 am
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You might want to check the loads on your flight to see if WT+ is open/oversold/something inbetween. Check out availability on www.flightstats.com

I've found WT+ pretty busy on recent flights (not your routing though) so no AUPs available
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Old Jan 23, 13, 4:43 am
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Originally Posted by Genius1 View Post
£89 is pretty standard for 80 TP sectors (ie. all Band 4 + HEL (Band 3)).
IST is £99.
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Old Jan 23, 13, 4:49 am
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OK, thank you both. I looked and no WT+ available. I'll ask at the airport. Thanks again!
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Old Jan 23, 13, 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by greyguy1 View Post
OK, thank you both. I looked and no WT+ available. I'll ask at the airport. Thanks again!
I assume you are travelling via LHR? Of course if you are on the direct MAN-JFK flight this is on AA metal and so there is no WT+
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Old Jan 23, 13, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by BasilBush View Post
I assume you are travelling via LHR? Of course if you are on the direct MAN-JFK flight this is on AA metal and so there is no WT+
Did I read somewhere recently that AA are introducing something called "main cabin extra" which sounded a bit like WT+ offering on BA. I wonder if avios bonuses and tier points for this new class will be aligned to WT+. Of course, I will try and avoid flying AA unless utterly absolutely necessary. Also, I won't say anymore here because I suspect I am already in the "off-topic for this thread" territory.
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Old Jan 23, 13, 5:19 pm
  #1658  
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Originally Posted by blindy View Post
Did I read somewhere recently that AA are introducing something called "main cabin extra" which sounded a bit like WT+ offering on BA.
It's just additional leg room and priority boarding. Standard Y service, no additional mileage or TP earning. Details here and FT discussion/info here.
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Old Jan 23, 13, 11:54 pm
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Originally Posted by mec72 View Post
To HKG it's £399/HKD 5,000 if I remember right.
Thanks.

Good value, especially when compared to the £499 the system offered (but could not deliver) for J to F from DXB to LHR.
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Old Jan 24, 13, 9:38 am
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Currently being offered WT --> WT+ for £199 through MMB for LHR-SFO in Mid-March. Claims to be a "special offer" but doesn't sound that special to me.
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Old Jan 24, 13, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by DeanB View Post
Currently being offered WT --> WT+ for £199 through MMB for LHR-SFO in Mid-March. Claims to be a "special offer" but doesn't sound that special to me.
That is. Compare that to what the fare difference and change fee would be...
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Old Jan 24, 13, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by darthlemsip View Post
That is. Compare that to what the fare difference and change fee would be...
Indeed, far better than i was offered for LHR-JFK last year too. If you can, go for it and see if there's availability for Avios upgrade to CW.
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Old Jan 24, 13, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by rrrrrich View Post
Indeed, far better than i was offered for LHR-JFK last year too. If you can, go for it and see if there's availability for Avios upgrade to CW.
Be VERY careful here. My experience is that when you upgrade to WT+ using "special offer", you are put in a fare class that is not upgradable to CW with Avios. Further discussion on this topic here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19709719-post5.html
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Old Jan 24, 13, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by Rome77 View Post
Be VERY careful here. My experience is that when you upgrade to WT+ using "special offer", you are put in a fare class that is not upgradable to CW with Avios.
I don't understand your warning - what do you lose? You can't UuA from WT to CW. And in my recent two attempts I was firmly told I couldn't AUP from WT to CW either, even if AUPs are available from WT to WT+ and from WT+ to CW.

So I can't see any way to get from WT to CW without paying the fare difference and change fee.

I would jump at a WT+ POUG for £199 on LHR-SFO. I got offered WT-WT+ AUP from LHR-DXB last week for £209 and that's half the flight time.
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Old Jan 24, 13, 11:45 am
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I would also jump at a WT to WTP for £199 as all my bookings are a TA 'special fare' marine type tickets. Incidentally AUP's seem to be increasing of late; WT to WT+ has gone up slowly from £169 last year to £209 of late. And £609 for WT to CW at Christmas time to LOS.
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