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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
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Old Jan 7, 13, 8:26 am
  #1576  
 
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Originally Posted by petemitchell View Post
Has anyone successfully upgraded a Q-fare either online or at the airport?
Originally Posted by NA-Flyer View Post
Has anyone ever got a POUG offer on a O class ticket out of LHR to any european destination ?
Originally Posted by IBMN View Post
I am looking to book a single to IST on Feb 7th and the booking class is G - has anyone been offered POUGs in MMB on a G ticket?
Let's skip to the end. Are there *any* revenue buckets that can't be POUG'd?
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Old Jan 7, 13, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by Paralytic View Post
Let's skip to the end. Are there *any* revenue buckets that can't be POUG'd?
Never been offered POUGs in S class or when booked using shareholder discount.

AND I'd still appreciate a direct answer to my question if anyone can help
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Old Jan 7, 13, 11:55 am
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I took an airport upgrade (WT to CW) AMM-LHR for 410 JOD = approx £350

Not really worth it imo, but wanted to try out the mid haul club product.
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Old Jan 7, 13, 2:57 pm
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Having been a frequent user of POUGs on return journeys from LHR, particularly to ZRH, TXL and FRA, I should know the answer to this question:

However, I have just booked a one-way flight CDG-LHR for March. As this is a one-way journey, would this still be applicable for a POUG? With the journey just being a one-way would this have an impact on POUG availability? Does anyone have any experience?

There is currently no POUG availability on this booking, but I am hoping that it this is something to do with the current sale (although technically it is an ex-UK sale).
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Old Jan 7, 13, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by rossmacd View Post
Does anyone have any experience?

There is currently no POUG availability on this booking, but I am hoping that it this is something to do with the current sale (although technically it is an ex-UK sale).
Not this route but I have POUGed on one-ways, coming back to LGW on a couple of occasions.
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Old Jan 8, 13, 11:41 am
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Curious I've never seen one of these offer panels on any flight I've booked.

A couple of questions (I've read the thread extensively and couldn't see these addressed anywhere):

1. Does it matter whether APIS has been completed?
2. Is it correct that the offer is likely only to be offered if I or U inventory are available? Curiously by outbound doesn't even list I and currently U seats are only being offered on earlier flights, but wide open in every other bucket. The inbound has plenty of I.

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Old Jan 8, 13, 12:29 pm
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My very limited experience is that I inventory being available is well-correlated with a POUG.
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Old Jan 8, 13, 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Paralytic View Post
Let's skip to the end. Are there *any* revenue buckets that can't be POUG'd?
Good call. Bump for more exposure
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Old Jan 9, 13, 10:00 am
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Not helpful - has anyone ever POUGd G bucket!
Many thanks for your replies
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Old Jan 10, 13, 6:42 pm
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Hi,

Does anyone know the cost of a cash upgrade (MMB or at the airport) from WT to CW on the YYC-LHR route? or YVR-LHR?
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Old Jan 10, 13, 10:49 pm
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Originally Posted by nth_utsera_sth_utsera View Post
2. Is it correct that the offer is likely only to be offered if I or U inventory are available? Curiously by outbound doesn't even list I and currently U seats are only being offered on earlier flights, but wide open in every other bucket. The inbound has plenty of I.
It appears to be that:

No I class: POUG rarely offered, if at all
Presence of I class availability: No guarantee whatsoever that POUG will be offered (in many cases they don't offer them).
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Old Jan 11, 13, 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by icetsubasa View Post
Hi,

Does anyone know the cost of a cash upgrade (MMB or at the airport) from WT to CW on the YYC-LHR route? or YVR-LHR?
Welcome to FT!

I did this on the YYZ-LHR route and it cost me $750
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Old Jan 11, 13, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by darthlemsip View Post
Welcome to FT!

I did this on the YYZ-LHR route and it cost me $750
Is that $750 CDN?

I paid $600 WT+ to CW PHX-LHR.
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Old Jan 11, 13, 12:09 pm
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Purchased an airport upgrade to CE yesterday for GBP 99 for my LHR - Sofia sector yesterday. During online check-in, the proactive upgrade price was 600+

Having in mind I paid only GBP 80 for the Y ticket, I think the upgrade was worth additional TPs
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Old Jan 11, 13, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by milance View Post
During online check-in, the proactive upgrade price was 600+
That sounds like a "fare difference" upgrade, not a POUG offer.

Did you get "upgrade using cash" and "upgrading using Avios" choices before you saw that figure?
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