Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically Ł59-Ł69 for Band 1, Ł69-Ł79 for Band 2, Ł79-Ł89 for Band 3 and Ł89-Ł99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically Ł59-Ł69 for Band 1, Ł69-Ł79 for Band 2, Ł79-Ł89 for Band 3 and Ł89-Ł99 for Band 4):
- ACE - Ł105
- AGP – Ł79 (Ł99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - Ł69 / Ł56 (Ł99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - Ł99 (Ł109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – Ł72
- BCN – Ł79 (Ł89 for Silver/Bronze and Ł114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - Ł89 / BCN to LHR Ł115)
- BGO – Ł64 (Ł79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - Ł119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - Ł69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (Ł55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - Ł79 (Ł89 and Ł105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - Ł69 (Ł75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - Ł69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - Ł79 (Ł129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - Ł119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – Ł79
- DUB – Ł69/Ł56 (Ł99 from HBO Nov 2014, Ł80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – Ł69
- FCO - Ł170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – Ł69
- GIB - Ł72 (Ł140 Dec 14)
- GOT – Ł79
- GVA - Ł79/Ł89
- HAJ – Ł69
- HAM – Ł69
- HEL – Ł89
- INN – Ł89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – Ł89
- JER – Ł69
- KBP - Ł80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – Ł89 (Ł190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately Ł134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – Ł79
- LIS – Ł79 (Ł119 offered Nov 14, Ł99 and Ł145 Dec 14)
- LUX - Ł69
- MAD - Ł79
- MAH - Ł69
- MUC - Ł79
- MXP - Ł119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - Ł140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - Ł69
- OSL - Ł79 (Ł64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - Ł79/€89
- PMI - Ł69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – Ł79
- PSA - Ł79
- SZG - Ł114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - Ł89
- STR – Ł69
- TIA – Ł89 (Ł99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – Ł79
- TXL – Ł69
- VCE – Ł79
- VIE – Ł79 [Ł129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~Ł110) Nov 2014 - Ł89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – Ł69 (Ł110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – Ł79
- ZRH – Ł79 (Ł87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. Ł69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP Ł189
- BOS – WTP Ł189 (mid-2014) Ł219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP Ł157
- JFK/EWR – WTP Ł189 (can be as low as Ł133) / CW Ł443 / F Ł527 (F Ł599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP Ł180
- LAX – WTP Ł229 / CW Ł599 (CW Ł548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP Ł180
- MEX – F Ł447/Ł525 / Ł229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP Ł209 / CW Ł525
- ORD – WTP Ł171 / CW Ł525 / F Ł499
- PHL – WTP Ł189
- SAN – CW Ł599
- SEA – WTP Ł199
- SFO – WTP Ł170
- YYZ – WTP Ł171 (return leg) / CW Ł425 / F Ł499
- YYC - WTP Ł134
- YVR – WTP Ł175 / CW Ł350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP Ł199
- GRU – WTP Ł209 / F Ł499 / WT to CW Ł699
- GIG - WT to CW Ł699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP Ł126-Ł140 / CW Ł549 / F Ł
- BOM - WTP Ł / CW Ł450 / F Ł
- DEL - F Ł499, subsequently reduced to Ł400
- HKG – WTP Ł199 (offered Ł172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW Ł599 / F Ł599
- NRT - WTP Ł199 / CW Ł / F Ł525
- ICN - CW Ł499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP Ł170 / CW Ł399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F Ł499
- CAI - WTP Ł121
- DXB – WTP Ł179 / F Ł499
- EBB - WTP Ł142
- JNB - WTP Ł209
- NBO - WTP Ł189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F Ł465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE Ł64
- BRU-LHR - CE Ł105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (Ł85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (cŁ395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - Ł189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (cŁ370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Dec 23, 2012, 10:54 am
#1561
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: not far from MUC
Posts: 6,620
Has anyone else noticed short-haul POUGs disappearing from MMB recently? Two upcoming LGW-NCE sectors which have been showing good POUG availability for some time disappeared suddenly a couple of days ago, around the time the BA sale started. Normally a good indicator of POUGs is the availability of I class bookings, which are still showing good availiabilty (I9). And I normally get offered POUGs immediately after booking on this route, but that didn't happen when I made a new booking yesterday.
If anything, this should teach me to grab POUGs quickly.
If anything, this should teach me to grab POUGs quickly.
Dec 25, 2012, 10:38 am
#1562
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ARN
Programs: Mucci Entry Level, BA Gold, EK Pleb, SK Pleb, QR Pleb
Posts: 3,585
I'm not sure if paid airport upgrades belong in this thread, however Ł449 from J-F (LHR-JNB)
Dec 25, 2012, 11:14 am
#1563
Join Date: Jun 2010
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 319
Ł449 to upgrade from WTP to CW on Friday's flight from LHR-JED. Very peaceful in CW despite an otherwise full flight.
Dec 27, 2012, 6:21 am
#1564
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
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Posts: 7,327
A quick look would suggest a standard CW fare on this route is Ł2k. The WTP fares are showing at Ł850 (though I don't know if they are part of the current sale and would usually cost more). Assuming both those prices are "normal", the POUG fare only seems to be Ł150 per leg less than the difference in fare?
Not knocking it, if it suits you at that price then go for it. Just seems that BA seem to have their prices for POUG set quite a bit higher than other airlines.
Dec 27, 2012, 11:34 am
#1565
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Location: London, UK
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Dec 27, 2012, 4:30 pm
#1566
Join Date: Jun 2010
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 319
I completely agree with you and I'm glad that I am not the only person who feels this way! Took the "offer" this time as I recently had surgery so the extra comfort was helpful.
Ł449 is quite steep for the fairly short flight to Jeddah on the B767. Considering what I paid for WTP (~Ł900 return) they pretty much charged me slightly less than 1/2 of the normal CW return fare (Ł2000) so this can hardly be called an "offer". Jeddah and Riyadh are almost never on sale.
Ł449 is quite steep for the fairly short flight to Jeddah on the B767. Considering what I paid for WTP (~Ł900 return) they pretty much charged me slightly less than 1/2 of the normal CW return fare (Ł2000) so this can hardly be called an "offer". Jeddah and Riyadh are almost never on sale.
Last edited by omarr135; Dec 27, 2012 at 4:40 pm
Dec 28, 2012, 4:37 am
#1567
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: England
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold, UA Premier Platinum
Posts: 389
Having posted earlier about the sudden disappearance of MMB POUGs on upcoming LGW-NCE bookings I thought I'd check the price for normal upgrades with cash. Strangely there was a difference between the price shown on the BA iPhone App and that on ba.com. The former price was a stonking Ł790, ten times the previously available POUG price. ba.com quoted Ł515. Both prices are more than the cost of buying a new one-way ticket, quoted at Ł499 for a flexible fare in D class.
Apart from the upgrade prices being clearly unattractive, I wonder why there should be a difference between the BA App and ba.com.
And I'm still puzzled by the sudden withdrawal of POUGs on this routing, which used to be so reliable, and with I9 showing for three upcoming bookings.
Apart from the upgrade prices being clearly unattractive, I wonder why there should be a difference between the BA App and ba.com.
And I'm still puzzled by the sudden withdrawal of POUGs on this routing, which used to be so reliable, and with I9 showing for three upcoming bookings.
Dec 28, 2012, 4:53 am
#1569
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: England
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold, UA Premier Platinum
Posts: 389
Thanks Darthlemsip - I wondered whether the sale might have something to do with it. Does anyone know if POUGs are still available at the airport during sales?
Dec 28, 2012, 5:11 am
#1570
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Jan 1, 2013, 12:08 pm
#1571
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: partly Euroland, partly Mountain Time
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Posts: 256
Has anyone successfully upgraded a Q-fare either online or at the airport?
Jan 5, 2013, 9:51 am
#1572
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: ORD
Programs: BA, AA, SQ, UA, AC, WS, MR TIT
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Has anyone ever got a POUG offer on a O class ticket out of LHR to any european destination ?
Jan 5, 2013, 10:09 am
#1573
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I thought they don't look at the subclass of your ticket for these upgrades as I ask the agent before I checkin whether my flight is available and how much, she gave me the price and the checked me in
Jan 5, 2013, 3:38 pm
#1574
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Jan 7, 2013, 7:19 am
#1575
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cambridge, UK
Programs: BAEC Gold, Virgin Flying Club Gold, DanAir Lifetime Gold, Coffee House Bedford Platinum Plus, Green
Posts: 168
POUG in G class
I am looking to book a single to IST on Feb 7th and the booking class is G - has anyone been offered POUGs in MMB on a G ticket?