Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Dec 11, 2012, 8:31 am
#1531
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Brighton and Hove, UK
Programs: LH FTL, BA Silver, Thameslink Delay Repay
Posts: 1,248
Aaaaand yet another LHR-ZRH-LHR POUG snapped up at £79 each way.
Data point: Out BA720 on Wed, Return BA719 on Sun. Booked 5 weeks in advance, flight wide open in I class (I9). Original fare exactly £158, making for a saving of £38 over published I class fare - not a lot, but hey, that's quite a few coffees/beers (not to mention 60TP extra towards leaving rust behind!)
Data point: Out BA720 on Wed, Return BA719 on Sun. Booked 5 weeks in advance, flight wide open in I class (I9). Original fare exactly £158, making for a saving of £38 over published I class fare - not a lot, but hey, that's quite a few coffees/beers (not to mention 60TP extra towards leaving rust behind!)
Dec 11, 2012, 8:51 am
#1532
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,450
These both relate to LHR. But has anyone seen an affordable POUG for flights between FRA or ZRH and LCY? Or between anywhere else and LCY for that matter. My upcoming LCY flights aren't offering me anything even vaguely sensible (over 300 GBP for LCY-ZRH and even more ridiculously 500 EUR for FRA-LCY).
Dec 11, 2012, 8:57 am
#1533
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 4,028
These both relate to LHR. But has anyone seen an affordable POUG for flights between FRA or ZRH and LCY? Or between anywhere else and LCY for that matter. My upcoming LCY flights aren't offering me anything even vaguely sensible (over 300 GBP for LCY-ZRH and even more ridiculously 500 EUR for FRA-LCY).
Dec 11, 2012, 9:18 am
#1534
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,450
Dec 11, 2012, 9:42 am
#1535
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: Meh
Posts: 2,597
BLR - LHR, CW to First 360 pounds. Flight was cancelled due to fog shortly after!
Dec 11, 2012, 12:36 pm
#1536
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: London. Or a plane.
Programs: "Only" 50,000 TPs until BA GGLfL
Posts: 2,774
These both relate to LHR. But has anyone seen an affordable POUG for flights between FRA or ZRH and LCY? Or between anywhere else and LCY for that matter. My upcoming LCY flights aren't offering me anything even vaguely sensible (over 300 GBP for LCY-ZRH and even more ridiculously 500 EUR for FRA-LCY).
Dec 11, 2012, 9:55 pm
#1537
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: Flying Blue, Marriott Rewards, BA Executive Club
Posts: 294
Switching from LCY to LHR for ZRH has now put me well on course for silver so I can return to flying from LCY.
What I did notice with most of the POUGs was that they were not advertised when opening MMB for the respective flights. Only when I hit "upgrade flight" witin MMB was it apparent that the cheap upgrade was on.
What I did notice with most of the POUGs was that they were not advertised when opening MMB for the respective flights. Only when I hit "upgrade flight" witin MMB was it apparent that the cheap upgrade was on.
Dec 11, 2012, 11:49 pm
#1538
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Her Majesty's United Kingdom
Programs: BA Gold, BA Lounge Rats, BA Audit Survivors, CW Kitchen Defender, CX Noodle Connoisseurs Club
Posts: 5,955
No lounge and flights are too short for it to make any real difference.
Is there even a biz check in at LCY?
I don't know why they bother offering it honestly. It seems a real waste of money to me, unless you really need the tier points.
Dec 12, 2012, 3:49 am
#1539
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 4,028
You've answered your own question there in regards to Tier Points.
There is also:
Feeding into a premium lh route so comes with CE by default
Seats 2CD on the E190
Better food (marginally)
Champers
I would never pay for it, but have flown it when they still did the FAO route year round as it was the only seats I could get with Avios and needed to get out there sharpish
There is also:
Feeding into a premium lh route so comes with CE by default
Seats 2CD on the E190
Better food (marginally)
Champers
I would never pay for it, but have flown it when they still did the FAO route year round as it was the only seats I could get with Avios and needed to get out there sharpish
Dec 12, 2012, 10:23 am
#1540
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: BA Silver, TK E+, AA PP, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 13,043
You've answered your own question there in regards to Tier Points.
There is also:
Feeding into a premium lh route so comes with CE by default
Seats 2CD on the E190
Better food (marginally)
Champers
I would never pay for it, but have flown it when they still did the FAO route year round as it was the only seats I could get with Avios and needed to get out there sharpish
There is also:
Feeding into a premium lh route so comes with CE by default
Seats 2CD on the E190
Better food (marginally)
Champers
I would never pay for it, but have flown it when they still did the FAO route year round as it was the only seats I could get with Avios and needed to get out there sharpish
Dec 13, 2012, 10:41 am
#1541
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Ex Gold, Now Silver :)
Posts: 123
EWR - LHR Airport Upgrade accepted at 650 USD WT+ to J
I believe WT - WTP is 250 USD. this is a fixed price as dictated by the system. I was told that it is always sold at this price when available.
The checkin Staff said that Club was sold. At the lounge I spoke the kind lady who said that she will see what she can do as i was keen on moving out of wtp.
Wonder if they moved someone from J to F to "sell" me a seat
I believe WT - WTP is 250 USD. this is a fixed price as dictated by the system. I was told that it is always sold at this price when available.
The checkin Staff said that Club was sold. At the lounge I spoke the kind lady who said that she will see what she can do as i was keen on moving out of wtp.
Wonder if they moved someone from J to F to "sell" me a seat
Dec 15, 2012, 5:08 am
#1542
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: Flying Blue, Marriott Rewards, BA Executive Club
Posts: 294
Seriously, is there any point in CE from LCY?
No lounge and flights are too short for it to make any real difference.
Is there even a biz check in at LCY?
I don't know why they bother offering it honestly. It seems a real waste of money to me, unless you really need the tier points.
No lounge and flights are too short for it to make any real difference.
Is there even a biz check in at LCY?
I don't know why they bother offering it honestly. It seems a real waste of money to me, unless you really need the tier points.
One thing I did notice was that it's cold food on returning CE to LHR (limited experience, though) whereas LCY is hot. Not a deal breaker though.
Lack of a lounge is not really missed as you can bank on being on time for boarding if you arrive half an hour before the flight. Loss of lounge access only kicks in when delayed but my experience is that you're either on time or cancelled from LCY!
Dec 15, 2012, 7:30 am
#1543
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: County Tyrone
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,492
Anybody experience of POUGs to and from DUB?
Dec 15, 2012, 8:54 am
#1544
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Torsby Sweden
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 50
Longhaul from outside UK
I fly from OSL and when going only to LHR i have got some offers but when i have a longhaul in the booking i have never got one. Have anyone else? or does it not support this kind of booking?