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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
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Old Dec 9, 12, 2:50 am
  #1516  
 
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Originally Posted by Genius1 View Post
In fairness you do get a bit more... empty middle seat, wider seat, more personal service, upgraded beverage selection, disembarkation amongst the first.
I've got the CE configuration ET seats behind the curtain for both directions
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Old Dec 9, 12, 3:36 am
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Originally Posted by angatol View Post
I've got the CE configuration ET seats behind the curtain for both directions
Just you watch out for that curtain moving...
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Old Dec 9, 12, 5:36 am
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Originally Posted by teiring View Post
Good to hear! I anticipate the same. Can't believe they'll let a 12F 777 fly this route regarding this load. How was the upgrade situation? Lots of gold card holders on this route during this time?
It's probably less to do with F and more to do with what is happening further back. BA never oversell First, however they do in all other cabins. If the availability you are seeing is zero in all cabins, this will include oversales. So they will already be oversubscribed in J,W and Y. And being over christmas where there will be significantly more leisure traffic you can safely bet on most if not all passengers turning up, even if they have flexible tickets.
Moving to a 744 will increase J and Y capacity and maintain W. Last year we were booked into W and took advantage of a POUG to J for £129 each I think. I guess BA still make something on the upgrade even if not to a J price ticket as otherwise they would have to OPUP instead. It's all about finding the buyers price and in this situation we were happy to oblige.... watched it drop of £299 to £199 then to £159 before go off sale for a few days to then reappear when we snapped it up. No luck on the way home unfortunately but I was happy enough in W (767 on the BA104 last year) so very limited capacity anyway.

A couple of tips for you: When we arrived in DXB last December, Immigration was a complete nightmare. No fast track for F&J pax. I think there were 4 or 5 widebodied flights all allriving within 30 minutes of one another so the resulting queue took well over an hour to process. Would recommend you book the Marhaba meet and greet service (google it) as they fast track you through immigration. We did this last month when we went back for some winter sun when the flights weren't nearly so busy and we still bypassed everyone from our flight. Secondly the lounge at DXB isn't so great (poor f&b, lack of seating) so I'd recommend ither getting there early (2+hrs in order to get a space) or not to bother and check in around 1hr20 prior to departure. Hope you have a good trip... the fireworks in DXB at new year are amazing!^
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Old Dec 9, 12, 12:46 pm
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I'd be happy to take an decent upgrade offer to First!

Unfortunately, I won't stay in DXB over Christmas. I will head to Colombo to meet up with the family of my +1 which implies that I'll have to connect to Terminal 3 for my onward flight to CMB! I'll be traveling alone as the Mrs is coming in from JFK. I really appreciate the advice regarding the Marhaba Services. However, their website isn't working at all which causes that I can't book their transfer service. I had written them an E-Mail and am waiting now for an answer! Lets see what they say.

Thank you so much for all your tips!
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Old Dec 9, 12, 3:21 pm
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Originally Posted by darthlemsip View Post
Just you watch out for that curtain moving...
Got behind the curtain both ways. On the way back tonight I was the first person to immigration with no queue. I'd eaten and had sufficient to drink in the lounge and didn't want anything on board. I'm not sure I'd've taken up an offer for 97p for an upgrade never mind 97 euro.
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Old Dec 9, 12, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by IMH View Post
Data point: I just upgraded a FRA-LHR flight, recently booked for next July, for 69 EUR.

That's slightly more than the price of the underlying cheapo ticket (and seems good value for 30 TPs that I might well need).
FRA has one of the best POUG in the whole BA network.
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Old Dec 9, 12, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer View Post
FRA has one of the best POUG in the whole BA network.
AMS is also very easy to get from LGW at times. That's what I do when in need of Tier Points.
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Old Dec 9, 12, 6:27 pm
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Flying a travel agent booking JFK-LHR this Saturday in WTP. Looking at BA website it seems there's a lot of availability in CW, is it worth my while ringing up BAEC and asking about paid upgrade or should I wait till I get to the airport (Journey begins in San Fran with AA)? Full journey will put me into Bronze and a 150 or so short of silver so only a blue at present!
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Old Dec 10, 12, 2:56 am
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Originally Posted by jonnogreig View Post
AMS is also very easy to get from LGW at times. That's what I do when in need of Tier Points.
I've got a few LGW-AMS and vice versa flights booked for next year, and all of them are offering 69 GBP upgrades per sector.
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Old Dec 10, 12, 3:10 am
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This morning, LHR-ORD, £299 J to F for a flight in Feb, which I've taken for both seats. Nothing on the return leg as yet
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Old Dec 10, 12, 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by darthlemsip View Post
This morning, LHR-ORD, £299 J to F for a flight in Feb, which I've taken for both seats. Nothing on the return leg as yet
That's a pretty good price, especially if you had an I class CW ticket.
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Old Dec 10, 12, 1:53 pm
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Old Dec 10, 12, 5:37 pm
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Originally Posted by 1Aturnleft View Post
A couple of tips for you: When we arrived in DXB last December, Immigration was a complete nightmare. No fast track for F&J pax. I think there were 4 or 5 widebodied flights all allriving within 30 minutes of one another so the resulting queue took well over an hour to process. Would recommend you book the Marhaba meet and greet service (google it) as they fast track you through immigration. We did this last month when we went back for some winter sun when the flights weren't nearly so busy and we still bypassed everyone from our flight. Secondly the lounge at DXB isn't so great (poor f&b, lack of seating) so I'd recommend ither getting there early (2+hrs in order to get a space) or not to bother and check in around 1hr20 prior to departure. Hope you have a good trip... the fireworks in DXB at new year are amazing!^

I just looked into this and the service is very reasonable for the time it shaves off going through immigration. $26 USD....
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Old Dec 11, 12, 4:24 am
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Originally Posted by FlightNurse View Post
I just looked into this and the service is very reasonable for the time it shaves off going through immigration. $26 USD....
If you're not flying J or F on EK, it's a necessity.
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Old Dec 11, 12, 4:31 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404 View Post
If you're not flying J or F on EK, it's a necessity.
My company uses them all the time, and they extend the service to us if we are just leisure travellers too - I've never waited more than 5 minutes to get through DXB Immigration, on exit, or entry.
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