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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread

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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
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Old Nov 30, 12, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by csutter View Post
I've been offered POUGs on every single one of my recent flights booked in discount economy. £69 each way to Paris (well, it is the city of love... *ducks* ) and £79 each way on multiple flights to Zurich and Vienna.
Any data on your ZRH POUGs, like how far in advance you booked and the flight times? I recently switched from flying weekly ex LCY to ex LHR at non rush hour times to increase my chances. Two POUG legs out of 10 legs so far but the two legs were immediately offered when booking about 6-8 weeks in advance. The reamining flights were less than that, say 4 weeks.

(At this rate I am going to get my 600 points by having to fly 50 legs and it will be a close run thing in any case so POUGs will enormously)
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Old Nov 30, 12, 2:04 am
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All my ZHR upgrades have been ex LHR.

Booked a few weeks i advance
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Old Nov 30, 12, 5:40 am
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Originally Posted by stifle View Post
They will normally try to get some money out of people by offering paid upgrades. If this doesn't clear enough people, they will start op-ups.
I'm actually not sure how this works. On two recent occasions, I asked about WT+ to CW POUGs at check-in and was told they're not available - just to be told at the passport desk that I was OP-UPed.

For both of these, I earlier saw POUGs through MMB but didn't want to upgrade myself in advance as this usually makes the ticket inflexible (unless you're willing to downgrade yourself back to WT+).
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Old Nov 30, 12, 6:07 am
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LHR-LAS 30th November £189 from WT to WT+

Hi,

Now in GF after a nice stay in the LHR Hilton T5
I asked at the First check in desk about upgrade offers to WTP today.

The very nice agent said it was £189 and then checked to see what was available.

Middle seats only ( plus one window) was offered.

He asked where I was sitting (29A) and suggested I stay where I was (which was my intention given the choices) I might have taken an aisle seat if the pirce was a bit cheaper.

Going to have lunch shortly and then grab a plane food pack for afternoon tea on board.

( PS -For those travelling to PHX today- the monitors are saying " Contact airline")

Regards

TBS
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Old Nov 30, 12, 6:36 am
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Originally Posted by CityRules View Post
Any data on your ZRH POUGs, like how far in advance you booked and the flight times? I recently switched from flying weekly ex LCY to ex LHR at non rush hour times to increase my chances. Two POUG legs out of 10 legs so far but the two legs were immediately offered when booking about 6-8 weeks in advance. The reamining flights were less than that, say 4 weeks.

(At this rate I am going to get my 600 points by having to fly 50 legs and it will be a close run thing in any case so POUGs will enormously)
They tend to be extended weekend trips ex LHR to see family, so they always include Sat night stay (maybe that makes a difference), tend to be non-rush hour times and are booked fairly far in advance. My three ZRH flights where I POUGed this year, always immediately after booking, were booked between 4 months and 5 weeks before departure.

I do make sure when I book that the flight still has plenty of I-class seats left (i.e. when choosing classes, shows the cheapest possible CE price in the CE column and doesn't say "only X seats left"), and that theory has yet to fail me
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Old Dec 1, 12, 4:05 am
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It is now POUG city for my ZRH bookings @ £79. I took two of the three offered and mulling over the third. What is it with me about getting to silver?
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Old Dec 1, 12, 4:27 am
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I'm waiting until my BA Amex bill cuts before I take up some POUGs; Christmas is hard enough as it is
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Old Dec 1, 12, 8:04 am
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Originally Posted by stifle View Post
They will normally try to get some money out of people by offering paid upgrades. If this doesn't clear enough people, they will start op-ups, but you are well down the priority list for this, behind all BA Premier, Gold, Silver, and non-BA oneworld emeralds. So I would not suggest you get your hopes up.
And sometimes they op-up people instead offering a POUG. That always baffles me a bit. I'd rather pay cash or Avios than to enter the op-up lottery, and surely it's better for BA too.
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Old Dec 2, 12, 7:25 am
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Anyone had any upgrades offered on LHR-AMM and AMM-LHR since BA took over via MMB? If so, how much?

Had to book a flight for just outside the great value sale price window so just could not justify the club price straight off.
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Old Dec 2, 12, 9:56 am
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LGW - AMS tomorrow, £69 as usual, took it
AMS - LCY Wednesday, they wanted £204

Again demonstrates how weak LGW -> AMS is compared to LCY City Flyer

Sad times
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Old Dec 2, 12, 10:01 am
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Originally Posted by LTN Phobia View Post
And sometimes they op-up people instead offering a POUG. That always baffles me a bit. I'd rather pay cash or Avios than to enter the op-up lottery, and surely it's better for BA too.
Said by a lowly Blue Member. Haha *joke*
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Old Dec 2, 12, 10:55 am
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Booked a flight for next May to Dublin for the H cup final. All ready offering £69 upgrades. Might take it as I'm up for a few drinks. There are drinks offered in T1 lounge?

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Old Dec 2, 12, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by pacenotes View Post
Booked a flight for next May to Dublin for the H cup final. All ready offering £69 upgrades. Might take it as I'm up for a few drinks. There are drinks offered in T1 lounge?
yes. of course. a large selection of wines, beers and spirits to satisfy most needs. Unless you are a GF regular and cant belittle yourself to drink such lower class offerings
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Old Dec 3, 12, 3:20 am
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What you will not on the other hand get is any substantial food. And don't forget the lounge is after the biometrics check so you can't change your mind and go back (without a substantial amount of faff anyway).
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Old Dec 3, 12, 3:30 am
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BCN-LHR today - POUG for £72 - slightly strange number but it must be the equivalent of €89 because I booked with a UK online travel agent...
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