LeisureFirst

I find it hard to believe that's the critical issue. Once you've got through the midtown tunnel, the taxi across to 9th only takes about ten minutes, even in the late afternoon. The unpredictable bit is between JFK and the tunnel.

FenLandK

I didn't say it was

I was purely making a geographical comparison with the Lincoln tunnel.

guv1976

If traffic is not a factor (and that's a big "if"), the preferred motor route from EWR to the Gansevoort would be through the Holland Tunnel, which should save about two miles over the Lincoln.

Prospero

So passé - The Standard at 848 Washington Street is the design hotel of the moment.

The last time I stayed at the Gansevoort, I flew in on the 185 and used the Newark Liberty Airport Express coach service to travel into Manhattan. From Bryant Park, the Gansevoort is a short cab ride. Only downside being, I arrived about an hour too early to check in

LeisureFirst

You are just so out of the loop. It was the design hotel of last year until people got reports from those who've actually stayed there - I don't know anyone in New York who would recommend it now. I tried the Standard last year and found it whimsical and childish. The furniture comes from Ikea. The glass partition between the shower and the bed isn't good design - it's just a joke. I have several friends who've stayed there and we're all back at the Gansevoort now. I even know people who've checked out of the Standard mid-stay and moved to the Gansevoort they found it so horrible. The only good thing about it is the views.

Plus I'm now classified as a regular at the Gansevoort and can get a 10-20% discount plus a double upgrade. But that's by the by.

jbcarioca

At the moment flying into EWR is the better bet because of delays at JFK due to runway closure for the next few months.

Lucifer UK

Holland tunnel surely...
Took me 25 minutes to drive from the NJ Turnpike I95 outside Newark Airport to the Lincoln Tunnel last night - Holland tunnel will be easier.

Prospero

For a Manhattan property, The Standard does challenge certain conventions. I'll grant you that.

To be fair, the furniture is a mix of bespoke and classic modernist design.

If you're getting a 20% discount and double upgrade at the Gansevoort, there really is little to debate here.

FenLandK

Yes, my bad. Holland tunnel it is.

710 77345

The 175 is normally just fine for those who are first off the plane - there's only one CX flight that comes in around that time, and is 15 minutes later. So worst case, you have one jumbo ahead of you, but normally you have nothing.

jkw76

It is generally a more reliable journey time from EWR than JFK. However LeisureFirst you asked how bad immigration could be at EWR and if my memory serves me correctly, beware of the many CO 757-200's that arrive into the same terminal from the UK around lunchtime (MAN, BRS, BHX, GLA, etc)

BA235

In my (admittedly pretty limited) experience arrivals can be a bit hit or miss.

But for what its worth, coming into JFK on the 117 I made a reasonably quick escape off the upper deck but then spent an hour in the immigration queue behind several hundred people who had just arrived off an ANA flight. Conversely, arriving into EWR I was second or third off the 185 and having a cigarette within 20 minutes. Good luck whichever you choose.

James S

I was on the 115 last night and there was no-one ahead of us at JFK passport control, around 830pm. A few bags from an IB flight were still on the carousel but the pax had already been processed.

stevenshev

The Gansevoort? How six years ago. And take that from a New Yorker.

henkybaby

So, where would you put up your friends?