TP Run without Passport
Jan 10, 2010, 4:28 am
#31
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Why? As long as everyone on board is properly screened prior to boarding, I don't care if they are flying under their real name or not. I NEVER show photo ID prior to Australian domestic flights, I check in on line, PYOBP, show, do a bag drop, go through screening, show BP (no card needed) to get into the lounge, then board the plane, all very civilised, no ID needed.
OBL could be on the flight for all I care, as long as he has been properly screened.
OBL could be on the flight for all I care, as long as he has been properly screened.
And whilst you can fly without showing ID domestically within Aus, it can be demanded of you.
Jan 10, 2010, 5:21 am
#32
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The post I was replying to said that it was scary that photo ID was not required, I still state that it was not in the least bit scary for the airline to accept the passenger without photo ID, security of the flight was in no way compromised.
It might have been scary as far as C&I stuff goes, but then, they normally require passports or national identity cards.
And whilst you can fly without showing ID domestically within Aus, it can be demanded of you.
Dave
Jan 10, 2010, 5:36 am
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Jan 10, 2010, 6:06 am
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It won't help the OP for their urgent TP run, but it is not uncommon to have 2 British passports in you are a British frequent traveller and if you passport spends lots of time in embassies getting visas for here, there & everywhere.
I got mine by providing a short letter from my employer stating the case, and then submitted with a normal UK passport application form. UKPA followed up with a 5 min phone call to me and a separate 5 min phone call to my employer and 2nd passport was issued in a few days. (The 2 passports have different numbers.)
Each time I need to re-new (either due to 10 year expiry, or more likely since it's full) we repeat the above process.
My employer is a multi-national with good reputation, 1000+ staff, blah, blah which may have been relevent.
It's never caused any prob for me when travelling. I once entered the US on consecutive days with different UK passports - same name, DOB, address, fingerprints
etc. but nothing happened (their computers are not well linked together...)
I got mine by providing a short letter from my employer stating the case, and then submitted with a normal UK passport application form. UKPA followed up with a 5 min phone call to me and a separate 5 min phone call to my employer and 2nd passport was issued in a few days. (The 2 passports have different numbers.)
Each time I need to re-new (either due to 10 year expiry, or more likely since it's full) we repeat the above process.
My employer is a multi-national with good reputation, 1000+ staff, blah, blah which may have been relevent.
It's never caused any prob for me when travelling. I once entered the US on consecutive days with different UK passports - same name, DOB, address, fingerprints
etc. but nothing happened (their computers are not well linked together...)
Jan 10, 2010, 7:59 am
#35
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I've always had ID checked at the gate on intra-schengen, but that might just be my choice of airlines (most intra-schengen flights were taken when I used AF-KLM as my primary airline). Even on a MST-AMS domestic flight they were checking ID.
For UK domestics. I've only flown BA with hand luggage and have never been asked for ID at the gate. I regularly check bags on BD domestics and can check-in at a desk with just my diamond club card.
Jan 10, 2010, 9:20 am
#36
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Are you referring to ID checks or passport checks?
I've always had ID checked at the gate on intra-schengen, but that might just be my choice of airlines (most intra-schengen flights were taken when I used AF-KLM as my primary airline). Even on a MST-AMS domestic flight they were checking ID.
For UK domestics. I've only flown BA with hand luggage and have never been asked for ID at the gate. I regularly check bags on BD domestics and can check-in at a desk with just my diamond club card.
I've always had ID checked at the gate on intra-schengen, but that might just be my choice of airlines (most intra-schengen flights were taken when I used AF-KLM as my primary airline). Even on a MST-AMS domestic flight they were checking ID.
For UK domestics. I've only flown BA with hand luggage and have never been asked for ID at the gate. I regularly check bags on BD domestics and can check-in at a desk with just my diamond club card.
It has been several years since my ID has been checked by anyone when flying intra-Schengen. If I get my BP from a machine, I don't need to prove my ID to anyone. This includes KLM, LH, LX and AF.
Markie said that his passport was required upon landing in CDG (ex-TXL) so I
was having difficulties picturing who would have checked it - he certainly wouldn't go through passport control in France if arriving from Germany.
Jan 10, 2010, 9:41 am
#37
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If you don't mind me asking, how long is it taking to process your visa? I really should get one (B1/B2) but trying to tie it in with their processing times looked iffy.
I have never been to Jersey with my passport on principle. Bergerac and all his mates can get knotted ! Part of the UK so we do not need to show a passport.
I have never been to Jersey with my passport on principle. Bergerac and all his mates can get knotted ! Part of the UK so we do not need to show a passport.
Passport should be back Tuesday morning
Jan 10, 2010, 10:29 am
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Jan 20, 2010, 1:03 am
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Just an update. Got (well when the courier arrives) my second passport and it was 99% smooth sailing. I rang the Passport people twice just to double check the docs that I needed to take to the Passport office, and also to make an appointment. The 1% that did not go as smoothly was the supporting letter containing the reason for needing a second passport. Both calls had resulted in the same kind of wording suggestions - when I spoke to the passport examiner (I think that is what he called himself) he said that I should have put the countries on there that I intended to visit, explained to him that I was just following the advice given, he checked with his supervisor and it all went through ok. HTH someone at some stage.
Jan 20, 2010, 2:14 am
#41
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Someone I know at one point had three valid passports concurrently. Two with a nationality of "British Citizen" and the third with "British National (Overseas)".
Jan 20, 2010, 4:53 am
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Jan 20, 2010, 4:54 am
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Jan 20, 2010, 5:07 am
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I'm not entirely sure how someone could actually concurrently be a British citizen and a BNO (although holding documents that say this is a different matter).