Taxes on award tickets

Old Oct 8, 09, 8:09 am
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Taxes on award tickets

I was thinking of converting some Amex MR points into BA miles to book flights from FRA to DME.

LH usually charges about 100 EUR for taxes on intra-european flights. Does anybody know what to expect for BA awards?
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Old Oct 8, 09, 8:44 am
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Expect to get killed. But you can do a test booking on BA.com and it will tell you exactly.
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Old Oct 8, 09, 8:58 am
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Expect to get killed. But you can do a test booking on BA.com and it will tell you exactly.
I did not transfer any points yet - no test booking possible with miles.

Or are the taxes the same as for normal = paid with $$$ bookings?
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Old Oct 8, 09, 9:11 am
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Old Oct 8, 09, 9:12 am
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I did not transfer any points yet - no test booking possible with miles.

Or are the taxes the same as for normal = paid with $$$ bookings?
You have to pay the full whack. I suspect that its not the best route to use miles on either, others will know this better than me though
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Or are the taxes the same as for normal = paid with $$$ bookings?
Yes - they are the same
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Old Oct 8, 09, 9:13 am
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You pay the full taxes , fees and surcharges as you would do with any normal booking.

So do a paid for dummy booking, in the class of travel, you require. at the end it will list the price and a breakdown of ticket cost and taxes/fees/i know you/hey we are ba/saw you comming/raw sausage inclusive/wouldn't happen on *alliance/eek that is alot/why do i bother/time to start a seperate thread on this/fuel surcharge

You will pay the tax and fees + miles for an award booking, brace yourself.
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Old Oct 8, 09, 9:38 am
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I just did a test booking: 185 EUR

Thanks for your help...
...I think I will use my miles for another destination
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Old Oct 8, 09, 10:46 am
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Slightly OT but somewhat relevant I think.

Taxes, fees & surcharges for an award booking are always higher than just buying a ticket I find.

I had looked at using miles for ABZ-AGP-ABZ in Feb next year which was quoted at 179 EUR (approx 165 quid today) yet taxes, fee's & surcharges to buy that same ticket on BA.com is 119 GBP. I have always seen this as a rip off, why 46 GBP difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can buy a ticket on BA through Terminal A that gives me same flight No's, same day for 194 GBP. Why use 15,000 miles when I can buy one for 29 GBP extra.

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Originally Posted by Oilrig fella View Post
I had looked at using miles for ABZ-AGP-ABZ in Feb next year which was quoted at 179 EUR (approx 165 quid today) yet taxes, fee's & surcharges to buy that same ticket on BA.com is 119 GBP. I have always seen this as a rip off, why 46 GBP difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is actually very easy to explain (though you probably won't like the reason...). It depends on the fuel surcharge, which is based on the point-of-sale. As you are apparently a non-UK BAEC member (hence the miles price in EUR), the taxes etc. for a miles booking will be calculated with the POS as your country of membership. However buying a redemption booking the POS will be the departure city (UK). Apparently the ABZ-AGP fuel surcharge is much higher for the non-UK POS. As well the exchange rate fluctuates.
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A bit different scenario: If I book using AA miles directly from American say AA ORD-LHR to BA LHR-NBO am I still subject to all the BA taxes and fees?

When I use aa.com to book the same routing (return) on a fare ticket the taxes are $161 usd. All flight are AA flt numbers but BA metal LHR-NBO. Do the flight numbers make a difference in taxes?

When I book LHR-NBO at the BA website, this is what I get for taxes (same flights, same class): Taxes, fees, charges and surcharges for the entire journey are approximately 194.30.

What gives?

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Old Nov 15, 09, 3:32 pm
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I just booked an F 2-4-1 return from LHR-MIA, for next autumn (fall) and the taxes etc were 500!
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Old Nov 16, 09, 3:11 am
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I just booked an F 2-4-1 return from LHR-MIA, for next autumn (fall) and the taxes etc were 500!
Each ticket was 500 taxes? Or total across the 2 tix?

I remember the days when a BA (or Air Miles) redemption tix really was completely free. We went to CDG, NYC and DXB all in J and I don't recall paying any taxes or fees. But I think that was in the 1993 - 1996 period.......
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Old Nov 16, 09, 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by BOH View Post
Each ticket was 500 taxes? Or total across the 2 tix?

I remember the days when a BA (or Air Miles) redemption tix really was completely free. We went to CDG, NYC and DXB all in J and I don't recall paying any taxes or fees. But I think that was in the 1993 - 1996 period.......
500 was for two.
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