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Why no direct flights from West Coast to Brazil?

Old Jul 29, 18, 11:54 pm
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Why no direct flights from West Coast to Brazil?

It has always puzzled me as why no US carriers have direct flights to at least one destination in Brazil from the West Coast (like LAX or SFO), when there are flights from Detroit and MSP.

Any insights?

-Pablo
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Old Jul 30, 18, 3:13 am
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Originally Posted by Pablofe View Post
Any insights?
1. Because the demand between West Coast and Brazil is lower?

2. Also - because DL is stupid?
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Old Jul 30, 18, 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by Pablofe View Post
It has always puzzled me as why no US carriers have direct flights to at least one destination in Brazil from the West Coast (like LAX or SFO), when there are flights from Detroit and MSP.

Any insights?

-Pablo
You do realize AA operates a direct LAX-GRU flight, don't you?

To second garykung's comment, AA has recently axed the frequency from daily to 3-4x weekly, mirroring low demand. Most Brazilians want to fly to Orlando, and Miami which explains why most flights between both countries operate into these gateways. NYC is third, followed by other airline hubs, which would be useed by US pax (ATL, DFW, IAH, IAD).
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Old Aug 31, 19, 9:52 am
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Looks like the AA flight is now gone.

I wish one of the airlines would use their LAX or SFO/OAK/SJC hubs as an option, useful both for US tourists (and from Asia) going to Brazil, but also for Brazilians living in the West coast (as an alternative to the MSP/DET type of routes).
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Originally Posted by Pablofe View Post
Looks like the AA flight is now gone.

I wish one of the airlines would use their LAX or SFO/OAK/SJC hubs as an option, useful both for US tourists (and from Asia) going to Brazil, but also for Brazilians living in the West coast.
So, the AA flight from LAX-GRU was first downgraded from daily to 3x weekly, and subsequently dropped, and you're wondering why more airlines aren't flying between the Brazil and the West Coast?

The overwhelming majority of Brazilians living in (and visiting) the US are on the East Coast. Last year Latam started direct flights into Boston, which is a Brazilian-heavy metro area - I don't know if that flight is still going, but it makes complete sense. See this excerpt from Wikipedia - no West Coast locales are in the Top 10:

10 US counties with the highest concentration of Brazilian-born residents:
Loch Lomond, Florida - 15,8%
Bonnie Lock-Woodsetter Florida - 7,2%
North Bay Village, Florida - 7,1%
East Newark, New Jersey - 6,7%
Framingham, Massachusetts - 6,6%
Harrison, New Jersey - 5,8%
Danbury, Connecticut - 5,6%
Somerville, Massachusetts - 5,4%
Sunshine Ranches, Florida - 5,1%
Flying Hills, Penn - 5,1%

10 US counties with the highest concentration of descendants of Brazilians:
East Newark, New Jersey - 6,20%
North Bay Village, Florida - 6,00%
Danbury, Connecticut - 4,90%
Harrison, Nova Jersey - 4,80%
Framingham, Massachusetts - 4,80%
Somerville, Massachusetts - 4,50%
Kearny, Nova Jersey - 3,70%
Vineyard Haven, Massachusetts - 3,60%
Deerfield Beach, Florida - 3,50%
Everett, Massachusetts - 3,20%
Marlborough, Massachusetts - 3,10%
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Also, look at the map. Not only is Brazil far south from California, it is far east too. Sao Paulo is directly south of the southern tip of Greenland. Using the Great Circle Map site, LAX-GRU is 6,156 miles. Connecting at IAH is 6,281, at DFW is 6,346, and at MIA is 6,414. Yes, you have the connection time and you have to go through immigration and customs at your first port of entry, but the time in the air is not much different.
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Korean Air has direct flights there from LAX with three classes of service.
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Originally Posted by gkbiiii View Post
Korean Air has direct flights there from LAX with three classes of service.

To Brazil?
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Originally Posted by Pablofe View Post
It has always puzzled me as why no US carriers have direct flights to at least one destination in Brazil from the West Coast (like LAX or SFO), when there are flights from Detroit and MSP.

Any insights?

-Pablo
If you really mean direct flights, this is meaningless as it's just a connection with the same flight number (despite the change of aircraft) where you earn fewer miles. For a while there was a DTW-GRU nonstop (perhaps seasonal) several days of the week, but IIRC DL has discontinued the flight totally. AFAIK there has never been a nonstop between MSP and Brazil, on any scheduled airline.
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Originally Posted by gkbiiii View Post
Korean Air has direct flights there from LAX with three classes of service.
That ended years ago.
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