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Jogging at GRU airport

Old Jun 17, 16, 7:09 pm
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Jogging at GRU airport

Have a three hour connection at GRU, early morning, between AA arrival and LATAM (domestic) departure. Thinking about jogging, one of my favorite activities during long connections.

Any suggestions?

I'll have access to AA and LATAM lounges as well as any that accept Priority Pass. Looks like no shortage of lounges with showers. So that's easy. The other requirements:

1) A facility for leaving luggage (at least in a luggage check storage of some sort, ideally in lockers or with staff. Doable at most lounges though some worry about unattended baggage, even after screening by security staff.

2) Exiting the secure area (from lounges), going out to the groundside area, and returning.

3) Somewhere with enough open space for me to jog, and sidewalks or shoulders to make it safe enough to get out there. I studied Google Maps (satellite view) and couldn't quite figure it out. No substitute for being there.

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Old Jun 18, 16, 9:14 am
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Insofar as 'ground side' anything, does the passport you hold require a visa for Brazil?

I would discourage the idea of being alone, jogging, almost anywhere in Brazil, no matter what the terrain is like, even in city parks at certain times of day. You set yourself up as a target, particularly at this time of severe and worsening economic crisis.
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Old Jun 18, 16, 11:03 am
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US citizen so visa waiver at present.

I hadn't considered the safety risk. Thanks for flagging that issue. Can I plausibly mitigate it by staying on airport property? At some airports, such as MAD and AUH and JFK, my standard jogging routes are entirely on airport property.
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Old Jun 18, 16, 4:40 pm
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Well, while it might not be too scenic, what about jogging around the parking facility? Any vehicle traffic should be slow moving and it is connected by walkway to terminal 3, I believe.

Don't know about your other questions regarding exiting airside and returning and the lockers. Never did that or needed lockers at GRU.

Of course, 3 hours may seem like a lot, but could go quickly if your inbound is late. Also, The domestic flight will sometimes leave early if they have everyone onboard. I have seen this a number of times, as much as 15 minutes early.
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Old Jun 18, 16, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by bedelman View Post
US citizen so visa waiver at present.

I hadn't considered the safety risk. Thanks for flagging that issue. Can I plausibly mitigate it by staying on airport property? At some airports, such as MAD and AUH and JFK, my standard jogging routes are entirely on airport property.
I see single joggers/runners all the time in Sao Paulo, including single women. If you are moving fast, you probably have less of a liklihood of being a target than someone walking.
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Old Jun 19, 16, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by bedelman View Post
Have a three hour connection at GRU, early morning, between AA arrival and LATAM (domestic) departure. Thinking about jogging, one of my favorite activities during long connections.

Any suggestions?

I'll have access to AA and LATAM lounges as well as any that accept Priority Pass. Looks like no shortage of lounges with showers. So that's easy. The other requirements:

1) A facility for leaving luggage (at least in a luggage check storage of some sort, ideally in lockers or with staff. Doable at most lounges though some worry about unattended baggage, even after screening by security staff.

2) Exiting the secure area (from lounges), going out to the groundside area, and returning.

3) Somewhere with enough open space for me to jog, and sidewalks or shoulders to make it safe enough to get out there. I studied Google Maps (satellite view) and couldn't quite figure it out. No substitute for being there.

Suggestions?

I'll update http://www.benedelman.org/travel/running/ with anything relevant.
I think you might be optimistic with your timing... 3hrs is not that long. You'll have to clear immigration and customs, so that could take you up to 90 mins since touching down. There are left luggage facilities (or used to be) just outside the old terminal arrivals area (not sure about the new terminal 3).

Finally, unless you have access to Amex Centurion lounges, there are no domestic lounges available to shower. Not even sure Centurion has showers.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but I would reccommend you to have a jog once you get to your final destination.
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Old Jun 23, 16, 2:32 pm
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3 hour connection isn't that long. By the time you disembark, go through immigratiion, wait for your bags, go through customs, then go to the TAM (I think they're still calling it that in Brazil) transfer desk outside of customs to check-in for the domestic flight (even if everything was booked together), then go through security to get to your domestic flight, you could end up with little time to wait to board. To jog you'd have to find a location (no great ones by the airport that I know of, and lots of traffic and pollution), and find a place to store your clothes and, importantly, any valuables (e.g., money, passport, watch). And, as noted, no showers. I'd regard 2 hours as the minimum connection time. 3 hours is good but not so much time that you need think about how to kill the time.
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Old Jun 25, 16, 9:34 pm
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Originally Posted by VidaNaPraia View Post
Insofar as 'ground side' anything, does the passport you hold require a visa for Brazil?

I would discourage the idea of being alone, jogging, almost anywhere in Brazil, no matter what the terrain is like, even in city parks at certain times of day. You set yourself up as a target, particularly at this time of severe and worsening economic crisis.
Are you out of your mind? That's absurd!

I wouldn't jog in the surroundings of GRU, because the roads around the airport are not always meant for pedestrians, so he would be exposed to risks involving vehicular accidents.
At GIG, it's a different story, since joggers are already common.
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Old Jul 1, 16, 12:56 pm
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Are you out of your mind? That's absurd!

I wouldn't jog in the surroundings of GRU, because the roads around the airport are not always meant for pedestrians, so he would be exposed to risks involving vehicular accidents.
At GIG, it's a different story, since joggers are already common.
Jogging in a city where hundreds of people are forced to abandon their cars and run for their lives in traffic in front of a popular shopping center, as happened the other day?
And didn't some female doctor get held up and killed on the Linha Vermelha highway right near the airport a week ago?
Who is out of their mind?
Joggers may be "common" (and still at risk if they look like they might have valuables) in the lane next to the beach in Copacabana/Ipanema, but at GIG outside the airport?
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Old Jul 1, 16, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by VidaNaPraia View Post
Jogging in a city where hundreds of people are forced to abandon their cars and run for their lives in traffic in front of a popular shopping center, as happened the other day?
And didn't some female doctor get held up and killed on the Linha Vermelha highway right near the airport a week ago?
Who is out of their mind?
Stay locked away in your house as you please. Don't drag down others with you in your paranoia.

Originally Posted by VidaNaPraia View Post
Joggers may be "common" (and still at risk if they look like they might have valuables) in the lane next to the beach in Copacabana/Ipanema, but at GIG outside the airport?
Yes, the neighbours of the airport are people too. Have you never noticed that there is housing for military personnel just outside the airport?
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Old Jul 2, 16, 5:41 am
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@C010T3---
If you are a 'normal' Brazilian sufficiently middle class to be interested in a forum discussing details of air travel, then I can assure you that I have almost certainly been in parts of Rio (and elsewhere in the country) that you probably wouldn't set foot in, and felt at home there. I do not stay at home under my bed.

But I also do not recommend to friends new to Brazil that they expose themselves to potential risk by jogging alone in unknown places, as if the incidents I described did not take place recently. They aren't in Kansas anymore. I read the doctor's plastic surgeon husband wished she had stayed home, even under the bed.

And unless one is longing for the bad old days of the military dictatorship to return, as some Brazilians apparently are now, it would be more logical to think of many members of the military as frequently more of a threat to the everyday public in Brazil than the drug traffickers, rather than some Officer Bill manning the school cross walk.

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Old Jul 4, 16, 6:56 pm
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Originally Posted by VidaNaPraia View Post
@C010T3---
And unless one is longing for the bad old days of the military dictatorship to return, as some Brazilians apparently are now, it would be more logical to think of many members of the military as frequently more of a threat to the everyday public in Brazil than the drug traffickers, rather than some Officer Bill manning the school cross walk.
You are definitely not in your sound mind.

First of all, I was describing them as the ones that frequently jog around the airport and, FYI, mostly the military wives do it.
Actually, I'm not even going further with this. Reading about how members of the Brazilian Armed Forces pose some kind of threat is so ludicrous that I cannot even fathom that we live in the same planet, let alone the same country.
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Old Jul 4, 16, 8:15 pm
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Just jog in T3 after you arrive. You can get a nice workout in and then refresh in either the AA or the LATAM lounge. Clear immigration afterwards (if needed) and then connect to your outbound flight

Source: Personal experience 2 days ago...
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Old Jul 5, 16, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by topcat_dcx View Post
Just jog in T3 after you arrive. You can get a nice workout in and then refresh in either the AA or the LATAM lounge. Clear immigration afterwards (if needed) and then connect to your outbound flight

Source: Personal experience 2 days ago...
I don't think that's possible, is it? As you deplane in T3, you are automatically forced to go through immigration + customs. OP's connecting flight is Latam domestic from T2, hence no lounges there (although there is a Bradesco credit card lounge hidden in T2 airside, where Centurion members may be granted access but I didn't try a couple of days ago).
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Old Jul 5, 16, 2:00 pm
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You are definitely not in your sound mind.

Reading about how members of the Brazilian Armed Forces pose some kind of threat is so ludicrous that I cannot even fathom that we live in the same planet, let alone the same country.
Well apparently the NYTimes does not think it too "ludicrous" to write about.

For anyone not familiar with Brazilian history and who wants to understand more, please read (at the risk of being called "not in your sound mind"):

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/03/op...ship.html?_r=0

It is those who forget history, and that it can easily repeat itself, who are not in their "sound mind".
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