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Zika Virus: CDC advises pregnant women to avoid 13 LA countries

Old Jan 16, 16, 11:16 am
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Exclamation Zika Virus: CDC advises pregnant women to avoid traveling to 13 LA countries

Don't forget to add bugspray to your packing list. I like Ben's, whose active ingredient DEET is a proven effective repellent, I buy it at Campmor.com

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/16/he...ning.html?_r=0

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Old Jan 16, 16, 6:21 pm
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Changing flight due to zika?

I'm one of the poor pregnant women changing her plans based on the cdc's recommendations. Any suggestions for getting the airline to waive fees when changing the destination? (I'm American Platinum, if it helps...) I know I might be SOL on that front, but worth asking, right?
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Old Jan 17, 16, 1:52 pm
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I certainly do understand wanting to avoid even the most miniscule of risks.

But just FYI re: Brazil---
There have been 120 total cases of Zika in Rio de Janeiro, the whole state, not just the city. Most of the cases have been in the far northeast of Brazil. There is no proven connection between Zika and birth defects (as yet).
And a little personal perspective:
In over 20 years of regular long term travel to Brazil, all over the country and in all sorts of neighborhoods, I have not gotten dengue, ever. The same mosquito carries Zika.
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Old Jan 18, 16, 5:36 am
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For once the Brazilian authorities are not bashing the US for issuing a travel advisory. They call the situation as "grave", with more than 3000 suspected micro-encephaly cases in 2015. Millions of people have contracted dengue, chikunguya and zika, transmitted by mosquito bite. I personally know several people who have gotten sick with dengue and while they recovered, they endured a whole lot of suffering.

It is foolish to ignore this travel warning, and if you have to travel, use bugspray and seek immediate medical attention if you come down with something.
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Old Jan 18, 16, 10:27 am
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In fact, the Brazilian government is complaining:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/18/wo...ames.html?_r=1

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Old Jan 18, 16, 1:23 pm
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Old Jan 18, 16, 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by boboqui View Post
For once the Brazilian authorities are not bashing the US for issuing a travel advisory. They call the situation as "grave", with more than 3000 suspected micro-encephaly cases in 2015. Millions of people have contracted dengue, chikunguya and zika, transmitted by mosquito bite. I personally know several people who have gotten sick with dengue and while they recovered, they endured a whole lot of suffering.

It is foolish to ignore this travel warning, and if you have to travel, use bugspray and seek immediate medical attention if you come down with something.
I dont always follow travel warning, but this is one I can understand. A woman is only pregnant for 9 months and the caribbean/south america is not going anywhere. Delaying the trip or visiting a different destination seems wise in my opinion, even if the off chance of an infection is minimal. If something happen, I couldn't imagine the guilt a parent would feel.
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Old Jan 19, 16, 7:36 am
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The scariest factor seems to be that, unlike dengue, only one in five people who contract Zika exhibit the flu-like symptoms. The woman in Hawaii whose baby was born with problems after she visited Brazil during the gestation is an example apparently, a concerning one.
With the Olympics coming up in Rio, concerns among foreign tourists new to Brazil may be rising.

However, the risks for most tourists to Brazil, that presumably larger percentage without concerns about a pregnancy, and particularly those visiting Rio for the Olympics, are mitigated by their tourist status:

*their stay, and exposure, is usually short (compared to a resident)
*their stay is usually in a less run-down part of town (with less nooks for water where mosquitos breed)
*their stay most often does not include the far northeast (where most cases have been found)
*their stay is likely to be in a city which now has a hotline for residents to get workers to quickly fix areas where there is standing water
* they are likely to be staying in a place with air conditioning (and therefore closed windows, reducing exposure compared to most Brazilian residences which don't even have screens and keep windows open for ventilation)
*they are likely to be staying near the beach (in Rio, Salvador, Recife for example) where breezes generally keep mosquitos away
*the number of foreign tourists who contract dengue (carried by the same mosquito) seems to be marginal
*the Olympics in Rio are being held in Brazilian winter (less rain, less mosquitos)

Each person obviously has to make a personal decision about where to travel and when.
No Puerto Rico? No Mexico? No Florida?
(Not to make too light...but) Maybe a New England winter of seven feet of snow (like last year) is starting to look better?
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Old Jan 19, 16, 8:40 am
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by: Cox Media Group National Content Desk Updated: Jan 18, 2016 - 3:35 PM

"Scientists first started exploring the connection between Zika virus and birth defects when a significant uptick in mosquito-borne illness and microcephaly was discovered in Brazil.
Even still, the CDC has acknowledged that "additional studies are needed to further characterize this relationship.

Here are the countries that women who are pregnant in any trimester, women who are trying to become pregnant or women who are thinking about becoming pregnant should avoid until further notice:

AFRICA
• Angola
• Burkina Faso
• Cameroon
• Cape Verde
• Central African Republic
• Cote d'Ivoire
• Egypt
• Ethiopia
• Gabon
• Gambia
• Kenya
• Nigeria
• Senegal
• Sierra Leone
• Somalia
• Tanzania
• Uganda
• Zambia

AMERICAS
• Brazil
• Colombia
• El Salvador
• French Guiana
• Guatemala
• Guyana
• Haiti
• Honduras
• Martinique
• Mexico
• Panama
• Paraguay
• Puerto Rico
• Suriname
• Venezuela

OCEANIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS
• Cook Islands
• Easter Island
• Federated States of Micronesia
• French Polynesia
• New Caledonia
• Samoa
• Solomon Islands
• Vanuatu

ASIA
• Cambodia
• India
• Indonesia
• Malaysia
• Pakistan
• Philippines
• Thailand
• Vietnam"
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Old Apr 12, 16, 7:14 am
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My son cancelled his trip to Brazil. The latest on Zika is that it may leave a permanent side-effect in the brain, very scary! Now there's also the H1N1 virus in Sao Paulo and Rio.

Cancelled Avios award flight from Sao Paulo to Rio, BA is refunding the 4,500 Points but keeping the $9.69 paid for Tax/Fee/Charge???

UAL issued a full refund of miles and fees.

American did not wave the $150 award cancellation fee, so I only cancelled the reservation.
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Old Apr 13, 16, 7:19 am
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...The latest on Zika is that it may leave a permanent side-effect in the brain, very scary!...
Where did you read this? I would suggest to read the info available in the CDC site where you can find everything that you'd like to know, described in an absolutely down-to-earth way. You'll also find info for travellers and other special interest groups. And, take it from a specialist, simply don't panic.

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Old Apr 13, 16, 9:16 am
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Where did you read this? I would suggest to read the info available in the CDC site where you can find everything that you'd like to know, described in an absolutely down-to-earth way. You'll also find info for travellers and other special interest groups. And, take it from a specialist, simply don't panic.
This is the info that's circulating in Brazil.

From the CDC site http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/22/7/15-1990_article

"Aspects of Zika virus pathogenesis remain unclear. Zika virus’s association with neurologic sequelae, including potential neuropathophysiologic mechanisms, is being actively investigated."
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Old Apr 14, 16, 1:51 am
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Originally Posted by boboqui View Post
This is the info that's circulating in Brazil.

From the CDC site http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/22/7/15-1990_article

"Aspects of Zika virus pathogenesis remain unclear. Zika virus’s association with neurologic sequelae, including potential neuropathophysiologic mechanisms, is being actively investigated."
The link is a review article published in Emerging Infectious Diseases. The authors have performed a wide search of the literature and mention a one-sentence summary of what has been described/claimed by others in previous publications. As far as the neurological disorders are concerned, they cite a WHO page on the Zika situation that is no longer available and which has been replaced by a new one. There, as far as neurologic disorders are concerned, only Guillain-Barrι syndrome is mentioned and, anecdotally through a link, CNS inflammatory cases in French Polynesia (none described in Latin America).

The Guillain-Barrι syndrome is indeed a serious disease, which affects the peripheral nervous system and not the brain, and you really don't want to ever get it. But Zika has not been credibly found to affect, in any sense, the brain as you wrote, with the exception of the mentioned cases in French Polynesia (none described in Latin America) and microcephaly (affects the newborn of pregnant women infected early in pregnancy). My point certainly is not that Zika is a harmless disease but, rather, that one should not post info or make other statements based on facts that (s)he does not understand. It is certainly not helpful. FT is supposed to deal with travel and giving epidemiological advice (directly or indirectly) is anything but helpful: Ἀπόδοτε οὖν τὰ Καίσαρος Καίσαρι... (Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's...)
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Old Apr 14, 16, 9:44 am
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one should not post info or make other statements based on facts that (s)he does not understand.
"Aspects of Zika virus pathogenesis remain unclear. Zika virus’s association with neurologic sequelae, including potential neuropathophysiologic mechanisms, is being actively investigated."

So according to you the CDC "should not post info or make other statements based on" that the "pathogenesis remain unclear" and that "potential neuropathophysiologic mechanisms, is being actively investigated."

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My wife arrived today bringing news that her best friend and my niece's bf were hospitalized last week when they came down with either dengue or chikungunya, the other 2 diseases that are spread by the same mosquito species, and which are also epidemic in Brazil. Scary stuff.
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