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Corpt Jan 22, 2009 4:13 am


Originally Posted by Tiger_lily (Post 11120941)
If you book this as a return you can't stop over in both NRT and HKG,

Yes you can can't you? NRT is the destination (so you can stop there) and one stop-over on the return in HKG.:confused: Taking two one-ways would enable a further stop-over somewhere between BKK and NRT, but Euan doesn't seem to want to do that.

I still agree though that two one ways is the better way to do it, just in case you want to make a change to your return journey after taking the outbound.

Euan Jan 22, 2009 4:29 am

Thank you Corpt, Swanhunter and Tiger_lily for your prompt replies.

We decided against SIN as we wanted to spend a few more days in Thailand.

Will book as two one-way tickets as it doesn't cost anything more and will leave us with more flexibility. I'm assuming I could cancel (for a fee) and re-book the BKK-NRT with a stopover, say BKK-HKT-NRT (subject to availability).

Good to read about seat selection ;) I assume that I call up the DC to change seats or do I need to call the airlines? (ANA and Thai).

Tiger_lily Jan 22, 2009 4:30 am

Maybe I am confused? I always thought that you could only have one stopover on a return and that was at your destination, in this case NRT :confused: If you wanted another stopover then 2x one-ways was the way to go

Tiger_lily Jan 22, 2009 4:31 am


Originally Posted by Euan (Post 11120986)
Good to read about seat selection ;) I assume that I call up the DC to change seats or do I need to call the airlines? (ANA and Thai).

DC *should* be able to see the seat maps, but a good way of checking that all is OK is to ring the respective airlines and get them to do it.

raikje Jan 22, 2009 4:36 am


Originally Posted by Tiger_lily (Post 11120989)
Maybe I am confused? I always thought that you could only have one stopover on a return and that was at your destination, in this case NRT :confused: If you wanted another stopover then 2x one-ways was the way to go

I'm pretty sure that the final destination is in addition to the stopover, even on a return - otherwise, how would a Z1-Z2 redemption work, when you're not allowed to stopover in Europe? :)

Also, from the spending guide:

A stop-over is a lapse of at least 24 hours between your arrival and departure at any transfer point

Corpt Jan 22, 2009 5:05 am


Originally Posted by Tiger_lily (Post 11120989)
Maybe I am confused? I always thought that you could only have one stopover on a return and that was at your destination, in this case NRT :confused: If you wanted another stopover then 2x one-ways was the way to go


Originally Posted by raikje (Post 11121003)
I'm pretty sure that the final destination is in addition to the stopover, even on a return - otherwise, how would a Z1-Z2 redemption work, when you're not allowed to stopover in Europe? :)

Also, from the spending guide:

A stop-over is a lapse of at least 24 hours between your arrival and departure at any transfer point

Absolutely. If the destination was a stop-over, there'd be no reference in the rules to stop-overs at all, as you wouldn't be allowed any. You're definitely allowed one stop-over en-route on a return redemption, in addition to your destination.

Swanhunter Jan 22, 2009 5:18 am


Originally Posted by Tiger_lily (Post 11120991)
DC *should* be able to see the seat maps, but a good way of checking that all is OK is to ring the respective airlines and get them to do it.

From experience half the time the ICC can't. Much better to call the airline and get them to do it. More chance of the assignment sticking too.

Euan Jan 22, 2009 5:23 am


Originally Posted by Swanhunter (Post 11121107)
From experience half the time the ICC can't. Much better to call the airline and get them to do it. More chance of the assignment sticking too.

Thanks guys.

I'll deal with the booking first (hopefully later on today - too busy at the moment) and can deal with seat assignments later on :)

Guy Betsy Jan 22, 2009 5:32 am


Originally Posted by Raffles (Post 11027999)
The EK flights are now £285 each in J - they have really kicked up their prices in the last 12 months. And it arrives in HKG after midnight.

Book Thai J on miles. Even if your exact flight is cancelled or retimed, they will simply move you to the next one. Even the 'old' TG J seat - which I've had on internal flights in Thailand - is a big fat seat in itself, a typical 1980's style long-haul J seat. 100x better than an Air Asia Y seat on a short-haul plane. Plus proper food, drinks etc and lounge access.

Cheapest oneway Business Class is Sri Lankan Airways. Not daily though but you can get it for around US$300 oneway. It arrives around 7pm. To find cheap fares oneway or return on TG, don't go to its website which is absolutely uselss. Check it out on zuji.com.hk

Jetstreamer Jan 22, 2009 6:18 am

Have you also considered flying HND-HKG instead of from NRT? HND is much easier, quicker and cheaper to get to from Tokyo than NRT.

Euan Jan 22, 2009 6:23 am


Originally Posted by Jetstreamer (Post 11121324)
Have you also considered flying HND-HKG instead of from NRT? HND is much easier, quicker and cheaper to get to from Tokyo than NRT.

Thanks for the suggestion - I'll go take a look on the ANA tool for flights from HND.

Edit the only reward flight from HND to HKG is 8.30pm which doesn't get us to HKG until just after midnight so would prefer to take the morning flight from NRT.

Euan Jan 22, 2009 11:30 am

Whilst I've posted on the 'Successful Redemptions' thread I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has provided advice to me for booking award flights.

Made my first ever call to the DC and made my first ever redemption with BMI miles. The person I spoke to (can't remember her name) was excellent. Did the first booking in less than 5 minutes. Her computer was slow when starting the second booking so she called me back on my mobile 2 minutes later when it was up to speed.


BKK-NRT in Business Class (11,250 miles + £75 cash + £77.70 taxes each).
NRT-HKG-BKK all in Business Class (11,250 miles + £75 cash + £74.10 taxes each). 3 day stopover in HKG.
Thanks to all who provided advice :) Checked checkmytrip whilst on the phone and all details loaded correctly. Just need to keep an eye on them getting ticketed ;)

Thanks again,
Euan


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