Help with FAQ: Earning non *A wetlease partners
Oct 22, 2007, 3:34 pm
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Help with FAQ: Earning non *A wetlease partners
Hi All,
I want to add a section to the bmi FAQ for a familiar question: I am flying X-Y on a *A flight number, but operated by a wetlease partner, will I earn miles?
For example: I am travelling on LX18 ZRH-EWR, operated by Privatair, will I earn miles?
The answer to this is YES, because Privatair is operating the service on behalf of Swiss, not in conjunction with or as a codeshare. Rule of thumb is whose uniform is being worn?
So, I would like CONFIRMED reports of this type:
LX: Privatair, Helvetic
LH: Privatair, Air Dolomiti, Eurowings, Cityline
OS: Austrian Arrows (Tyrolean), Lauda
UA: (Basically anything listed as UAX) SkyWest, Colgan, Mesa, Go Jet, Shuttle America, Chautauqua, Trans States
ANA: All Nippon, Air Central, IBEX, Air Nippon, Air Japan
I want to add a section to the bmi FAQ for a familiar question: I am flying X-Y on a *A flight number, but operated by a wetlease partner, will I earn miles?
For example: I am travelling on LX18 ZRH-EWR, operated by Privatair, will I earn miles?
The answer to this is YES, because Privatair is operating the service on behalf of Swiss, not in conjunction with or as a codeshare. Rule of thumb is whose uniform is being worn?
So, I would like CONFIRMED reports of this type:
LX: Privatair, Helvetic
LH: Privatair, Air Dolomiti, Eurowings, Cityline
OS: Austrian Arrows (Tyrolean), Lauda
UA: (Basically anything listed as UAX) SkyWest, Colgan, Mesa, Go Jet, Shuttle America, Chautauqua, Trans States
ANA: All Nippon, Air Central, IBEX, Air Nippon, Air Japan
Oct 22, 2007, 3:44 pm
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I can definitely confirm Helvetic on ZRH-BUD and SkyWest and Mesa on countless flights. AFAIK, the key is whether the flight is marketed exclusively by the *A airline or marketed by the *A airline AND independently by the operating carrier. In the former case, it qualifies whereas in the latter it does not (unless the carrier is itself a *A airline, of course). The nature of the legal arrangement between the marketing carrier and the operating carrier (wet lease, franchise, etc...) is a secondary issue.
Oct 22, 2007, 4:40 pm
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Would this not be of interest to StarAlliance as a whole?? I'm not saying it's not welcome here, just that maybe others might be able to benefit from your efforts too?
(There is a similar thing in the StarAlliance forum but it's not exactly long the same lines).
Then again, I suppose BD flyers are more wary of wetleases than other *A FFP members!
(There is a similar thing in the StarAlliance forum but it's not exactly long the same lines).
Then again, I suppose BD flyers are more wary of wetleases than other *A FFP members!
Last edited by jbfield; Oct 22, 2007 at 4:58 pm
Oct 23, 2007, 5:46 am
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e.g. LCY-MUC in the days when it was operated by Cirrus, was not a wet-lease but a codeshare... Not that anybody could tell, as it was Lufty check in, Lufty boarding pass, Lufty ticket, Lufty flight number, Lufty food and cutlery. But no miles
Don't remember about the uniform, sorry, it all looks the same to me...
Feb 9, 2009, 8:21 am
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This thread died a death at the time... however, it is a useful thing to add to the FAQ,s so let's try again.
As luck would have it, I have 2 Air Dolomiti segments coming up shortly in the range LH39.. will this earn BD miles?
As luck would have it, I have 2 Air Dolomiti segments coming up shortly in the range LH39.. will this earn BD miles?
Feb 9, 2009, 9:37 am
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Most (not all however) wet lease jobs involved crew who are dressed to look like the carrier they are representing.
Feb 9, 2009, 10:35 am
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Feb 9, 2009, 10:37 am
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