In principle, what you say is right for FRA.
Howver, ALL US/Mexico flights pax connecting at FRA (from anywhere even domestic say MUC/DUS or EDI) MUST (re-)clear additional security at FRA.

Now for all other flights connecting at FRA, say for example EDI-FRA-YYZ or LHR-FRA-SIN, there is no re-clearance.

So I guess the rules can be pretty subjective, given a paticular airport's thinking...

Could it be because you're arriving from EU but into non-Schengen zone of the airport, so they think there is no need to reclear security?

I did LGA-IAD-AMS-LHR-BRU once without having to reclear security until LHR...

Anyway, if you ask me, this entire security check thing is just above me. I mean, if the UK allows an airplane from the U.S. to land at LHR, wouldn't it be safe to say that the people are "clean enough" to go on a connecting flight ex-LHR? It's not like a butter knife will all of a sudden appear in someone's carry-on without leaving airside...

I think it varies more by country - all German airports seem to be similarly obsessed with rigorous secondary screening (MUC and DUS have a similar set-up to FRA).

LHR, by contrast, just has random screening at the gate of particular passengers.

I think there is a US requirement for secondary screening of some sort, but it is left up to the airline and airport in each case to work out exactly what form this takes.

I don't think that is it. After all I can fly DEL-FRA-MUC v.v. or BKK-FRA-YYZ v.v. without re-clearing security. (In one case Schengen, and other Non-Schengen)

Yes, but the German airports do this secondary security screening ONLY if you are flying to U.S./Mexico (irrespective of point of origin).

Anyways, the logic of all this just escapes me. Nothing describes the situation better than ajamieson's example: :eek: :eek:

Just did the LGA-IAD-MAN leg and thought I would let you know how it went.

LGA was a joy compared to other US airports. No queue to check-in, 1 minute through security check and great RCC before security with nice views over the airport and NY area.

However, things seemed to have changed a little at IAD. We arrived at the 'G' gates area, which looked brand new and not unlike a Bus Station with the area you walk down to get to the buses. As we landed I could see the *A tailed 330 in the midst of the UA a/c, but was a little alarmed to see it being pushed back by a tug as I was on the bus to C/D :eek: .

The boards showed departure gate as D15R, the 'R' I now presume to stand for 'remote'. I used the RCC near D8 and was rather bemused to receive a single voucher for 1 alcoholic drink. I am still amazed by the US way of not allowing their Gold status FF's free access to alcohol :confused: .

D15R is a gate where you walk onto those 'mobile lounge thingy's', that raise and lower themselves to the terminal and a/c as required, and get driven out. I personally hate being bused to and from a/c, especially when you're on the last one where they have to wait for the standard late pax before leaving. This meant standing on a packed bus for 25 minutes. NOT impressed, particularly when flying in C :mad: .

Apparently Independence Air, who were formerly part of UA, have said they need more gates, so BD now leave from this remote stand. I think they should apply some pressure about this and get on a proper stand as it's a pain. The crew say this flight is doing well, especially with freight, and won't get dumped for the winter this time.

Suffice to say the flight and food was again fantastic. The CSM came round and introduced herself just after take-off and we were both rather amused to find out we live a couple of miles from each other :) .

8/10, until they sort the gate out.

I've started a LGA fan club ;) I like the views from the RCC; watching a/c landing and departing on intersecting runways is a bit of an eye-opener :eek: I imagine LGA has more than its fair share of go-arounds. And the barmaid in the RCC on Sunday night accepted all my out-of-date coupons because she was too busy watching the golf on TV to notice the date stamp ^ :D

Unfortunately the gate has very little to do with BD. United lease the C concourse thgat BD used to deparrt from, but decided that they needed extra gate space. Hence BD has been relegated to a remote gate until further notice.

This is very indirectly related to Indepdendence Air. Until recently they would have been the airline flying you from LGA to IAD as United Express. United terminated their contract so they went off to set up their own low cost airline. They also took the aircraft and gates (Concourse A) that UA use to use for United Express flights from IAD. Hence the new G Concourse (you'll see far more derogatory terms than bus station being used over on the UA forum!).

The new UA Express operation seems to be having punctuiality problems. I will be heading over to NY next week, and am due to fly LGA-IAD-LHR on the return. Unfortunately the 7.25am flight I'm suppopsed to get out of LGA on the return has missed my connection to London (9.35am) on 6 of the last 7 days. I've sacrificed an hour of sleep in order to get the 6.15am (ouch!) flight out of LGA so I can be sure of catching the daytime connection. I hope the LGA staff are as bright eyed and bushy tailed at that time as they normally are!

I flew back on BD702 on 18 Sept I totally agree regarding the remote parking & the mobile lounge it took ages to board the plane. According to the CSM on our flight they hope to get an allocated gate for winter.

The flight & service were excellent the "Business" is an excellent product. My main concern was no bags were tagged at all as Priority & the 1 hour wait for the bags to arrive on the belt in Manchester.

Trust me, having a 'Priority' tag is no guarantee of getting your luggage early at MAN :mad: . Don't normally have to wait an hour though. That's ridiculous, especially as the IAD flight usually gets in before 6 so it's quiet in T1.

I know priority tags dont always work, an Emirates staff member at Man told me they were sure that the handlers quite often sent their Priority bags through last. We were luckier than the next belt which ahad an Ibiza charter waiting when we got there. There bags started 20 minutes after ours.

Back to the quality of the BD service. This was the first time on their transatlantic product. Very nice touches in the Business, like being collected & escorted to the gate, but you get some funny looks from all the other pax when you & the other C class pax just walk up to the front and they open the tape to let you through. Service onboard was excellent on both legs, food very good but what exactly does the chef do? Surely most of the food is loaded like any other airline. The Mad Hatters tea party was a nice way to finish the outbounf flight.

priority tags are definitely hit and miss.