Outrageous YQ - any ideas?
Nov 24, 2012, 10:06 pm
#16
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 114
Is the following taxes/YQ fair?
Sorry to dig up this old thread, but I am just feeling uncomfortable with the amount of taxes and YQ being charged for the following booking (made during the dying days of Diamond Club for *A redemption).
SIN CHANGI SQ 878 I 18APR 1155 IBP00SQ 18APR 18APR 30K OK
TERMINAL:3
TAIPEI ARRIVAL TIME: 18APR 1640 SEAT: N/A
TERMINAL:2
TAIPEI SONG SHA NH 1186 I 27APR 1330 IBP00NH 27APR 27APR 30K OK
TOKYO HANEDA ARRIVAL TIME: 27APR 1745 SEAT: N/A
TERMINAL:I
TOKYO HANEDA NH 1171 I 28APR 0855 IBP00NH 28APR 28APR 30K OK
TERMINAL:I
HONG KONG ARRIVAL TIME: 28APR 1230 SEAT: N/A
TERMINAL:1
HONG KONG SQ 871 I 30APR 1955 IBP00SQ 30APR 30APR 30K OK
TERMINAL:1
SIN CHANGI ARRIVAL TIME: 30APR 2335 SEAT: N/A
FARE CALCULATION : SIN SQ TPE NH X/TYO NH HKG SQ SIN000NUC000END
ROE1.000000XT5.20YQ6.90SG3.00OP4.00OO6.40TW16.00SW 9.
80HK
AIR FARE : GBP 0.00
TAX : GBP 154.50DU 198.60YQ 51.30XT
TOTAL : GBP 404.40
Looking forward to your opinion.Thanks!
SIN CHANGI SQ 878 I 18APR 1155 IBP00SQ 18APR 18APR 30K OK
TERMINAL:3
TAIPEI ARRIVAL TIME: 18APR 1640 SEAT: N/A
TERMINAL:2
TAIPEI SONG SHA NH 1186 I 27APR 1330 IBP00NH 27APR 27APR 30K OK
TOKYO HANEDA ARRIVAL TIME: 27APR 1745 SEAT: N/A
TERMINAL:I
TOKYO HANEDA NH 1171 I 28APR 0855 IBP00NH 28APR 28APR 30K OK
TERMINAL:I
HONG KONG ARRIVAL TIME: 28APR 1230 SEAT: N/A
TERMINAL:1
HONG KONG SQ 871 I 30APR 1955 IBP00SQ 30APR 30APR 30K OK
TERMINAL:1
SIN CHANGI ARRIVAL TIME: 30APR 2335 SEAT: N/A
FARE CALCULATION : SIN SQ TPE NH X/TYO NH HKG SQ SIN000NUC000END
ROE1.000000XT5.20YQ6.90SG3.00OP4.00OO6.40TW16.00SW 9.
80HK
AIR FARE : GBP 0.00
TAX : GBP 154.50DU 198.60YQ 51.30XT
TOTAL : GBP 404.40
Looking forward to your opinion.Thanks!
Nov 25, 2012, 2:43 am
#17
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 5 miles from EMA
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Just looking at that booking you have 2 of the biggest culprits for high YQ right there. Go to matrix.itasoftware.com plug in the journey and dates and see what it comes back with.
Nov 25, 2012, 7:14 am
#18
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: AUH
Posts: 8,265
Isn't the £154.50 DU the cash portion of the Miles & Cash booking?
198.60 YQ sounds not entirely surprising for SQ+NH. Note that SIN-TPE attracts a much higher YQ than SIN-HKG. You have 4 segments which makes things a lot worse as well.
198.60 YQ sounds not entirely surprising for SQ+NH. Note that SIN-TPE attracts a much higher YQ than SIN-HKG. You have 4 segments which makes things a lot worse as well.
Nov 25, 2012, 7:53 am
#19
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Well, those of us who've transferred our miles over to BA EC are rapidly discovering that the YQ grass certainly isn't any greener over there.....
Taking a simple LHR-JFK return for example, in C, YQ is £319, and total fees/taxes are £520.
Taking a simple LHR-JFK return for example, in C, YQ is £319, and total fees/taxes are £520.
Nov 25, 2012, 8:12 am
#20
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West coast US is even worse for YQ on BA, just paid 4x £359 in J for next Easter to SFO 
they should be renamed Dick Turpin airways
they should be renamed Dick Turpin airways
Nov 25, 2012, 12:45 pm
#21
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If we're playing top trumps, I'd suggest my £2850 bill for 5 award seats (admittedly in F) to YVR will take some beating on several counts....
Nov 25, 2012, 1:44 pm
#22
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Nov 25, 2012, 1:58 pm
#23
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Agreed, unless using a 2-4-1 voucher I find it much more cost effective to use Avios for upgrade from WTP, especially if you can time it for a sale fare!
Nov 25, 2012, 1:59 pm
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Nov 25, 2012, 8:05 pm
#25
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Thanks all for your reply
I have tried the software since June, but there is no flight available on ANA between TSA-HND. Even tried to book a one-way on the ANA web, but it seemed they only sell return trip for TSA-HND.
Got the following from ITA matrix:
SIN-TPE
Singapore Passenger Service Charge (SG) £10.20
Singapore Aviation Levy (OP) £3.10
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge (OO) £4.10
(YQ) £83.90
(YQ) £3.20
HND-HKG
Japan International Passenger Facility Charge (SW) £15.50
(YQ) £43.00
HKG-SIN
Hong Kong Departure Tax (HK) £9.80
(YQ) £19.90
So the total above are YQ: £150.00 and Tax: £42.70. Hence, I supposed the YQ I was charged for TSA-HND is £48.60?
On the ANA web, YQ of TWD2,960 (£64) was charged for a return TSA-HND-TSA biz class ticket. So I guessed I am being overcharged about £15 here?
Well, I guess it gonna be pointless to contest it?
Yeah, you are right! I am unlucky to have 2 of the biggest YQ culprit
But I feel the YQ was much more excessive on NH. Had expected YQ on this itin not to be that high as it involved HKG. NH are charging YQ of £43.00 for HND-HKG while YQ on HKG-SIN is only £19.9?
Yeah, that's the cash portion. £150 + £4.50 credit card fee.
Got the following from ITA matrix:
SIN-TPE
Singapore Passenger Service Charge (SG) £10.20
Singapore Aviation Levy (OP) £3.10
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge (OO) £4.10
(YQ) £83.90
(YQ) £3.20
HND-HKG
Japan International Passenger Facility Charge (SW) £15.50
(YQ) £43.00
HKG-SIN
Hong Kong Departure Tax (HK) £9.80
(YQ) £19.90
So the total above are YQ: £150.00 and Tax: £42.70. Hence, I supposed the YQ I was charged for TSA-HND is £48.60?
On the ANA web, YQ of TWD2,960 (£64) was charged for a return TSA-HND-TSA biz class ticket. So I guessed I am being overcharged about £15 here?
Well, I guess it gonna be pointless to contest it?
Yeah, you are right! I am unlucky to have 2 of the biggest YQ culprit
But I feel the YQ was much more excessive on NH. Had expected YQ on this itin not to be that high as it involved HKG. NH are charging YQ of £43.00 for HND-HKG while YQ on HKG-SIN is only £19.9?
Yeah, that's the cash portion. £150 + £4.50 credit card fee.
Nov 26, 2012, 2:32 am
#26
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Thanks all for your reply
I have tried the software since June, but there is no flight available on ANA between TSA-HND. Even tried to book a one-way on the ANA web, but it seemed they only sell return trip for TSA-HND.
Got the following from ITA matrix:
SIN-TPE
Singapore Passenger Service Charge (SG) £10.20
Singapore Aviation Levy (OP) £3.10
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge (OO) £4.10
(YQ) £83.90
(YQ) £3.20
HND-HKG
Japan International Passenger Facility Charge (SW) £15.50
(YQ) £43.00
HKG-SIN
Hong Kong Departure Tax (HK) £9.80
(YQ) £19.90
So the total above are YQ: £150.00 and Tax: £42.70. Hence, I supposed the YQ I was charged for TSA-HND is £48.60?
On the ANA web, YQ of TWD2,960 (£64) was charged for a return TSA-HND-TSA biz class ticket. So I guessed I am being overcharged about £15 here?
Well, I guess it gonna be pointless to contest it?
Yeah, you are right! I am unlucky to have 2 of the biggest YQ culprit
But I feel the YQ was much more excessive on NH. Had expected YQ on this itin not to be that high as it involved HKG. NH are charging YQ of £43.00 for HND-HKG while YQ on HKG-SIN is only £19.9?
Yeah, that's the cash portion. £150 + £4.50 credit card fee.
I have tried the software since June, but there is no flight available on ANA between TSA-HND. Even tried to book a one-way on the ANA web, but it seemed they only sell return trip for TSA-HND.
Got the following from ITA matrix:
SIN-TPE
Singapore Passenger Service Charge (SG) £10.20
Singapore Aviation Levy (OP) £3.10
Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge (OO) £4.10
(YQ) £83.90
(YQ) £3.20
HND-HKG
Japan International Passenger Facility Charge (SW) £15.50
(YQ) £43.00
HKG-SIN
Hong Kong Departure Tax (HK) £9.80
(YQ) £19.90
So the total above are YQ: £150.00 and Tax: £42.70. Hence, I supposed the YQ I was charged for TSA-HND is £48.60?
On the ANA web, YQ of TWD2,960 (£64) was charged for a return TSA-HND-TSA biz class ticket. So I guessed I am being overcharged about £15 here?
Well, I guess it gonna be pointless to contest it?
Yeah, you are right! I am unlucky to have 2 of the biggest YQ culprit
But I feel the YQ was much more excessive on NH. Had expected YQ on this itin not to be that high as it involved HKG. NH are charging YQ of £43.00 for HND-HKG while YQ on HKG-SIN is only £19.9?
Yeah, that's the cash portion. £150 + £4.50 credit card fee.
Actually you got it lower with your booking...
A revenue booking's taxes today comes out more as ...
XT 195.30YQ 10.20SG 4.10OO 3.10OP
6.50TW 15.40SW 9.70HK
Total taxes: GBP 244.30
Last edited by Guy Betsy; Nov 26, 2012 at 2:40 am