ANA now (tries to) require you to have a Mileage Balance to use the Partner Search !
#31
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Not in the UK and I presume many countries outside the US
If you already have 5k PC, you can buy 10k for just $60 using the 'cash and points and cancel' method, which is cheaper than SPG
Last edited by Raffles; Jun 17, 2010 at 8:12 am
#32
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transfer minimum MR/SPG points?
Since I was planning on transferring in 120K MR points and enough SPG points in September to achieve the amount needed for 2 biz tix to China in 2011, should I just transfer 1K MR points now to get something into the account? Will that be enough to give me access to the search tool?
BTW, I just tried to log in and use the search and got the message about needing to have points i nthe account. : (
BTW, I just tried to log in and use the search and got the message about needing to have points i nthe account. : (
Last edited by susiesan; Jun 17, 2010 at 9:55 am
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Disaster, but, potentially not. Whilst it means I'm going to waste one stay/flight credit it may help to recduce the number of people able to search for reward seats... increasing their availability (selfish view). Personally will look at a retro-hertz credit that was going to go to Marriott when I could be bothered doing it, 500 Marriott points aren't worth much anyway.
(I'd pay ExpertFlyer more frequently, I currently pay my $5 on an ad-hoc basis, if only they offered a *A search.. perhaps it will help build a business case for them)
Out of interest, what was the *A search engine that is being mentioned?
(I'd pay ExpertFlyer more frequently, I currently pay my $5 on an ad-hoc basis, if only they offered a *A search.. perhaps it will help build a business case for them)
Out of interest, what was the *A search engine that is being mentioned?
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KVS Tool is not affected by the latest changes to the ANA website and continues to provide access to award/upgrade availability across all Star Alliance member carriers: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes
Perhaps in the background Expertflyer is doing the same but it was always hidden and I assumed they paid someone cash to get direct access to the actual airline system that shows the award classes (perhaps they scrape too?), hence the more limited number of airlines available but no requirement to have an ANA account.
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But there has been a beta tool under development by a FlyerTalker (I think I saw the post in the United forum), that basically uses the ANA database/interface, but makes it much more user friendly.
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Thanks for your reply, makes me kind of curious: If your tool is still working have I mis-interpreted it in the past. From the screenshots, with the staralliance award searcher mentioning your ANA number/PIN I assumed it was screen scraping ANA's website to display availability on flights (in some manner). Are you actually using an alternative mechanism that won't be affected by these changes?
I've built a GreaseMonkey script to generate the same link for the common man.
Install this little ditty: http://old.wanderingaramean.com/staralink.user.js
Then go here: https://www.ana.co.jp/asw/AMCTopServlet?type=e
Click on the Award Reservation link on the menu there and then look in the top left corner. You should see a link that says "Click for *A Search" that should take you to the *A search form. You might get an error about session expired. If you do just click on the link/button to the home page and go to ANA Mileage Club again and to Award Reservations again. It usually works but occasionally gets that session timeout issue.
Any feedback you have is welcome.
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Smarter Tools require every user to use his/her own account number/password and requests are processed through the user's IP address which is different for every user. Most likely ANA does not even notice this kind of use.
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KVS Tool is not affected by the latest changes to the ANA website and continues to provide access to award/upgrade availability across all Star Alliance member carriers: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes
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When I had accidentally credited an Avis Car rental to ANA Mileage Club in Apr 2008, I thought that was dumb of me to do so. I thought , hey, here I am with only 300 miles to my account and everyone else on FT is doing this for free.
I guess it was the smart thing for me to do then !
I guess it was the smart thing for me to do then !