The 2010 Diamond Club FAQ - Everything the Newbie couldn't posssibly know yet (v.4)
Jul 19, 2010, 4:02 am
#17
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: DUB - Ireland
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I never knew that. I'll update the top of this thread, so. ^
Jul 23, 2010, 5:09 pm
#18
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: London, England
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 3,770
I have a question regarding the charging of connections in Z1/Z2 not covered in the examples in post #5. What if a return trip is booked and the outbound flight involves a connection and the return is direct?
e.g. If one booked DUB-LHR-TBS-LHR am I right in saying it would be charged as follows (in Y):
12,000 miles + 3750 one way connection = 15,750 miles. I only ask because the way it is worded the connection surcharge is applied at 7500 miles per return flight. In the above example it is a return flight, even though there is only one connection.
A further question, if the above was miles + cash am I correct in saying it would cost 6,000 miles + Ł70 (for flight) + 2000 miles + Ł15 (for connection) = 8,000 miles + Ł85?
e.g. If one booked DUB-LHR-TBS-LHR am I right in saying it would be charged as follows (in Y):
12,000 miles + 3750 one way connection = 15,750 miles. I only ask because the way it is worded the connection surcharge is applied at 7500 miles per return flight. In the above example it is a return flight, even though there is only one connection.
A further question, if the above was miles + cash am I correct in saying it would cost 6,000 miles + Ł70 (for flight) + 2000 miles + Ł15 (for connection) = 8,000 miles + Ł85?
Jul 24, 2010, 3:00 am
#19
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club, Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Englandshire
Programs: SPG LT Plat, BA G, BD*LG, MG Blue+ ...
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I have a question regarding the charging of connections in Z1/Z2 not covered in the examples in post #5. What if a return trip is booked and the outbound flight involves a connection and the return is direct?
e.g. If one booked DUB-LHR-TBS-LHR am I right in saying it would be charged as follows (in Y):
12,000 miles + 3750 one way connection = 15,750 miles. I only ask because the way it is worded the connection surcharge is applied at 7500 miles per return flight. In the above example it is a return flight, even though there is only one connection.
A further question, if the above was miles + cash am I correct in saying it would cost 6,000 miles + Ł70 (for flight) + 2000 miles + Ł15 (for connection) = 8,000 miles + Ł85?
e.g. If one booked DUB-LHR-TBS-LHR am I right in saying it would be charged as follows (in Y):
12,000 miles + 3750 one way connection = 15,750 miles. I only ask because the way it is worded the connection surcharge is applied at 7500 miles per return flight. In the above example it is a return flight, even though there is only one connection.
A further question, if the above was miles + cash am I correct in saying it would cost 6,000 miles + Ł70 (for flight) + 2000 miles + Ł15 (for connection) = 8,000 miles + Ł85?
The 8,000 + Ł85 looks right too.
Aug 6, 2010, 5:12 am
#20
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: TK Gold, M&M FTL, QR Gold, HH Diamond, PCR Platinum
Posts: 1,667
What about the Gold 55K threshold?
Well, for high earners, this is where a good programme becomes truly great. The old complaint was that once you got Gold status, well, there was nothing better to aim for. Other programmes offered extra upgrades, or a Platinum level or whatever.
In 2006, bmi came up with this: If you have Gold status, bmi will "convert" any (up to a maximum of 250,000) status miles in excess of 55k to bonus destination miles - i.e. the equivalent amount of destinations miles will be credited to your account. These bonuses should credit as part of your Gold status bonus - ie. bmi flights at 35%+100%=135% and partner flights at 25%+100%=125% of the base miles.
Your status miles total stays the same - the miles aren't deducted once they have been 'converted'. At the end of your membership year, of course, your status miles total is reset to 0 and you have to get back up to 55,000 in your next membership year before you earn any further rollover bonus destinations miles.
Well, for high earners, this is where a good programme becomes truly great. The old complaint was that once you got Gold status, well, there was nothing better to aim for. Other programmes offered extra upgrades, or a Platinum level or whatever.
In 2006, bmi came up with this: If you have Gold status, bmi will "convert" any (up to a maximum of 250,000) status miles in excess of 55k to bonus destination miles - i.e. the equivalent amount of destinations miles will be credited to your account. These bonuses should credit as part of your Gold status bonus - ie. bmi flights at 35%+100%=135% and partner flights at 25%+100%=125% of the base miles.
Your status miles total stays the same - the miles aren't deducted once they have been 'converted'. At the end of your membership year, of course, your status miles total is reset to 0 and you have to get back up to 55,000 in your next membership year before you earn any further rollover bonus destinations miles.
To cut it short, will I benefit from this great option after 31k status miles or after 86k status miles?
Aug 6, 2010, 6:06 am
#21
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: HKG
Programs: Marriott Ambassador (Titanium Lifetime), BA Gold, Ex-Hertz 5* PC, Ex-HH Diamond, Ex-BD*G
Posts: 3,058
After 86k status miles, its a hard slog the first time you are getting gold!
Aug 6, 2010, 6:56 am
#22
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: DUB-BOS
Programs: various
Posts: 3,678
Today you are silver with 7k status miles.
+ 31k more and you will be Gold with 38k status miles.
+17k more and you will have 55k status miles. All miles after this attract the bonus.
+ 31k more and you will be Gold with 38k status miles.
+17k more and you will have 55k status miles. All miles after this attract the bonus.
Aug 6, 2010, 7:31 am
#23
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: HKG
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So you will need the 86k status miles, as I mentioned
, quite a lot of flying ahead of you!
Aug 6, 2010, 7:36 am
#24
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: DUB-BOS
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forgot about the reset at first time gold....doh
Aug 6, 2010, 8:12 am
#25
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: TK Gold, M&M FTL, QR Gold, HH Diamond, PCR Platinum
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Thanks, much appreciated. Can I suggest to specify this clearly in the FAQ above?
Aug 6, 2010, 8:56 am
#26
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Location: DUB - Ireland
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Done. 
Aug 6, 2010, 11:10 am
#27
Join Date: Jun 2006
Programs: BD,Skyteam,QF
Posts: 541
At one point in this extensive (and very useful) thread, someone recommended that a poster should use their status on another FFP to get BD Gold on a status match.
I suppose this would require giving up the other gold status? (probably a numpty question, but if this is an unspoken pot of gold, I'd like to know!
)
I suppose this would require giving up the other gold status? (probably a numpty question, but if this is an unspoken pot of gold, I'd like to know!
)
Aug 6, 2010, 11:35 am
#28
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Location: Massachusetts, USA; AA Plat, DL GM and Flying Colonel; Bonvoy Platinum
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At one point in this extensive (and very useful) thread, someone recommended that a poster should use their status on another FFP to get BD Gold on a status match.
I suppose this would require giving up the other gold status? (probably a numpty question, but if this is an unspoken pot of gold, I'd like to know!)
I suppose this would require giving up the other gold status? (probably a numpty question, but if this is an unspoken pot of gold, I'd like to know!
)BA is the most likely status to be matched, *A partners the least likely, and all other airlines in between.
A status match is pretty much a one-time thing, so you might not want to go for it unless you're fairly serious about flying on BD and/or its partners. And you'll have to requalify on your own - no favo(u)rs here!
There is more (much more!) about BD status matches in this thread.
Aug 13, 2010, 7:46 pm
#29
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ontario, Canada
Programs: BMI Diamond Club
Posts: 104
Thanks alot for the thread, this is excellent.
But just a question about something that wasnt in the FAQ.
Me, my Mother and my brother are booked on JED-RUH-LHR for early september, in Economy.
Now, my Mom has a DC memebrship, and me and my brother are under her as part of the Family Memberhsip (My mother is the main memeber though). She has gathered up enough miles to upgrade us all. Can we still make the upgrade for ALL of us?
Thanks in advance.
But just a question about something that wasnt in the FAQ.
Me, my Mother and my brother are booked on JED-RUH-LHR for early september, in Economy.
Now, my Mom has a DC memebrship, and me and my brother are under her as part of the Family Memberhsip (My mother is the main memeber though). She has gathered up enough miles to upgrade us all. Can we still make the upgrade for ALL of us?
Thanks in advance.
Aug 21, 2010, 2:50 pm
#30
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LHR
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[*]When redeeming on bmi flights, Gold member redemptions are automatically booked into business class on short-haul or premium economy on long-haul, for the economy miles tariff. This is confirmed at booking. Note I did not say Gold Members, I said Gold Member redemptions - get it? If a Gold books with or for a friend, the friend is upgraded at the time of booking, even if the Gold member isn't travelling.
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