WARNING: Watch out for fuel re-charge scam at Avis
#31
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Airport fuel prices CPT
Most airport fuel stations charge higher fuel prices than local stations.
The good news is that CPT fuel prices have been the LOWEST in the region. So it is really convenient to fill there.
I have been offered two fuel choices at CPT when renting:. Full to full and bring it back empty where they fill on return and charge a reduced rate. Perhaps Avis snuck this option by the renter. Thus the fill cost (bogus).
The good news is that CPT fuel prices have been the LOWEST in the region. So it is really convenient to fill there.
I have been offered two fuel choices at CPT when renting:. Full to full and bring it back empty where they fill on return and charge a reduced rate. Perhaps Avis snuck this option by the renter. Thus the fill cost (bogus).
#32
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Most airport fuel stations charge higher fuel prices than local stations.
The good news is that CPT fuel prices have been the LOWEST in the region. So it is really convenient to fill there.
I have been offered two fuel choices at CPT when renting:. Full to full and bring it back empty where they fill on return and charge a reduced rate. Perhaps Avis snuck this option by the renter. Thus the fill cost (bogus).
The good news is that CPT fuel prices have been the LOWEST in the region. So it is really convenient to fill there.
I have been offered two fuel choices at CPT when renting:. Full to full and bring it back empty where they fill on return and charge a reduced rate. Perhaps Avis snuck this option by the renter. Thus the fill cost (bogus).
#33
Join Date: Aug 2017
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And its not a scam per se, its just their policy. So if you knew that policy you simply could've not bothered to fill in the tank and come out ahead (their fuel fees isn't exorbitant)
#34
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On a recent Hertz rental in Brussels they had the fuel charge option on the contract, even though I always refuse and return the car full. I didn't notice this until returning the car, but the agent told me they do that on all rentals and simply delete the charge if you return the vehicle full, which was done. I guess the advice is to look over rental contracts when renting outside of your normal area.
#35
Join Date: Mar 2015
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I recently returned a car to AVIS at FLL, the gas gauge showed as FULL, but the return agent said his handheld said the car was down 2 gallons of gas, I said but the gas gauge shows as full, he did not care one iota and said it is what my computer says, not anything. He added 19.98 to my bill and only after speaking with manager was the added gas amount removed as a one-time favor.
I was told by the Manager that many AVIS cars report the amount of the fuel in the tank to the computer system and I am quoting here, "the fuel gauge is no longer the measure by which AVIS is determining if the car is fully fueled or not."
Just a warning.
I was told by the Manager that many AVIS cars report the amount of the fuel in the tank to the computer system and I am quoting here, "the fuel gauge is no longer the measure by which AVIS is determining if the car is fully fueled or not."
Just a warning.
#36
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I recently returned a car to AVIS at FLL, the gas gauge showed as FULL, but the return agent said his handheld said the car was down 2 gallons of gas, I said but the gas gauge shows as full, he did not care one iota and said it is what my computer says, not anything. He added 19.98 to my bill and only after speaking with manager was the added gas amount removed as a one-time favor.
I was told by the Manager that many AVIS cars report the amount of the fuel in the tank to the computer system and I am quoting here, "the fuel gauge is no longer the measure by which AVIS is determining if the car is fully fueled or not."
Just a warning.
I was told by the Manager that many AVIS cars report the amount of the fuel in the tank to the computer system and I am quoting here, "the fuel gauge is no longer the measure by which AVIS is determining if the car is fully fueled or not."
Just a warning.
#37
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I recently returned a car to AVIS at FLL, the gas gauge showed as FULL, but the return agent said his handheld said the car was down 2 gallons of gas, I said but the gas gauge shows as full, he did not care one iota and said it is what my computer says, not anything. He added 19.98 to my bill and only after speaking with manager was the added gas amount removed as a one-time favor.
I was told by the Manager that many AVIS cars report the amount of the fuel in the tank to the computer system and I am quoting here, "the fuel gauge is no longer the measure by which AVIS is determining if the car is fully fueled or not."
Just a warning.
I was told by the Manager that many AVIS cars report the amount of the fuel in the tank to the computer system and I am quoting here, "the fuel gauge is no longer the measure by which AVIS is determining if the car is fully fueled or not."
Just a warning.
Last edited by IAHtraveler; Apr 19, 2019 at 12:05 pm
#38
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,620
Use the app and (for most newer cars) it will show the fuel to 0.1 gallons. From what I've seen, a difference of 0.3 gallons will allow no charge. But over that, and they'll charge you per gallon. However, if the gauges are not calibrated by the division of weights/measures of a state (like Al grocery store scales, gas pumps, etc), I don't see how it's legal to use it for charges. If I get hit with it and filled up <10 miles from a station, I'd fight it.
Last edited by kmersh; Apr 19, 2019 at 12:55 pm
#39
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Ok I've finally changed my mind and believe the fuel thing is nothing short of a scam. Case in point from this week:
Pickup 1:
Car A
Fuel out: 17.3 gallons according to the app. Gauge showed full but dropped down within 5 miles of pickup.
Fuel back: 18.4 gallons according to the app while I had the vehicle in the return lot. I have the screen grab as proof from within 3 minutes of the return time. Upon check-in, the paperwork shows the return fuel of 0.0 gallons and “8/8 Full”. Note I filled up within 1 mile of the return station.
Pickup 2:
Car A (same as the first rental. I returned and immediately re-rented)
Fuel out: 18.4 gallons
Fuel back: 18.4 gallons. Unlike the prior rental, when the gas reading isn’t in their favor, they don’t zero it out.
So on rental #1, they knew there was more fuel than when rented, yet no credit was given and the receipt zeroed out the fuel gauge. However, if it’s the other way around (which I’ve been hit with), they
gladly charge you their refueling fee. Ridiculous!
Pickup 1:
Car A
Fuel out: 17.3 gallons according to the app. Gauge showed full but dropped down within 5 miles of pickup.
Fuel back: 18.4 gallons according to the app while I had the vehicle in the return lot. I have the screen grab as proof from within 3 minutes of the return time. Upon check-in, the paperwork shows the return fuel of 0.0 gallons and “8/8 Full”. Note I filled up within 1 mile of the return station.
Pickup 2:
Car A (same as the first rental. I returned and immediately re-rented)
Fuel out: 18.4 gallons
Fuel back: 18.4 gallons. Unlike the prior rental, when the gas reading isn’t in their favor, they don’t zero it out.
So on rental #1, they knew there was more fuel than when rented, yet no credit was given and the receipt zeroed out the fuel gauge. However, if it’s the other way around (which I’ve been hit with), they
gladly charge you their refueling fee. Ridiculous!
#40
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,620
Ok I've finally changed my mind and believe the fuel thing is nothing short of a scam. Case in point from this week:
Pickup 1:
Car A
Fuel out: 17.3 gallons according to the app. Gauge showed full but dropped down within 5 miles of pickup.
Fuel back: 18.4 gallons according to the app while I had the vehicle in the return lot. I have the screen grab as proof from within 3 minutes of the return time. Upon check-in, the paperwork shows the return fuel of 0.0 gallons and “8/8 Full”. Note I filled up within 1 mile of the return station.
Pickup 2:
Car A (same as the first rental. I returned and immediately re-rented)
Fuel out: 18.4 gallons
Fuel back: 18.4 gallons. Unlike the prior rental, when the gas reading isn’t in their favor, they don’t zero it out.
So on rental #1, they knew there was more fuel than when rented, yet no credit was given and the receipt zeroed out the fuel gauge. However, if it’s the other way around (which I’ve been hit with), they
gladly charge you their refueling fee. Ridiculous!
Pickup 1:
Car A
Fuel out: 17.3 gallons according to the app. Gauge showed full but dropped down within 5 miles of pickup.
Fuel back: 18.4 gallons according to the app while I had the vehicle in the return lot. I have the screen grab as proof from within 3 minutes of the return time. Upon check-in, the paperwork shows the return fuel of 0.0 gallons and “8/8 Full”. Note I filled up within 1 mile of the return station.
Pickup 2:
Car A (same as the first rental. I returned and immediately re-rented)
Fuel out: 18.4 gallons
Fuel back: 18.4 gallons. Unlike the prior rental, when the gas reading isn’t in their favor, they don’t zero it out.
So on rental #1, they knew there was more fuel than when rented, yet no credit was given and the receipt zeroed out the fuel gauge. However, if it’s the other way around (which I’ve been hit with), they
gladly charge you their refueling fee. Ridiculous!
#42
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,620
Happened again yesterday, I filled it up 10 miles from the airport (car is EPA rated for 30 miles to the gallon of gas) because there are two gas stations near the airport that are both almost a dollar more than anywhere else, I topped it off till gas sloshed out of the tank and dripped down the paint and that gauge read full upon return, the agent still tried to charge me for the tank being at 17.8 instead of 18.0.
I went to the counter and they did take it off, but it should not be this way, if the gauge reads full than the car is full, there have been plenty of times when I have rented a car, the gauge reads full and just after leaving the lot, it drops to below full, that is just part of renting a car.
I went to the counter and they did take it off, but it should not be this way, if the gauge reads full than the car is full, there have been plenty of times when I have rented a car, the gauge reads full and just after leaving the lot, it drops to below full, that is just part of renting a car.
#44
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,620
Happened to my wife yesterday and she complained to the manager showing her gas receipt, he did take off the charge and said that his policy is that if a customer complains he removes the charge, but he could not promise that all managers would follow the same policy (even at the same station).