JFK Fuel Scam or Real Technology?
I topped off the gas at the new JFK Sunoco station before returning the car 5 minutes later. Sure enough, they check me in at 7/8 and charge ~$20 for refueling. When I pointed to the fuel gauge and showed the receipt dated from 5 minutes ago, the attendant claims the car "automatically" transmits the fuel reading at the gate and there is nothing he can do. I went inside and they took off the fuel charge as a "one-time courtesy credit". Mind you I am a President's Club member who rented AVIS cars for 24 out of 26 weeks year to date. The agent also repeated the whole "automatic fuel reading at the gate". Is there any truth to that?
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Others have reported remote fuel level sensing technology at rental car returns. I don't know if it's an aftermarket product or a reading they get from the engine/vehicle body control computer.
The language that says the vehicle's fuel gauge is the marker of record still appears in the U.S. Preferred Service T&Cs: 7.3 The fuel level of the Vehicle at the time You rent it and at the time You return it to Avis is determined by visual inspection by Avis of the Vehicle's fuel gauge. |
Was it a Ford? Fords and a few others have the electronic fuel gauges and Avis uses those to determine fuel levels (against their T&Cs). With these, I always snap a pic of the fuel/odometer on the way in & out as I have been incorrectly hit for fuel a handgul of times. Also, unless these electronic gauges have been certified by state divisions of weights & means (or whatever your state calls it), I don't think it's legal to use this for charges.
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
(Post 23110445)
7.3 The fuel level of the Vehicle at the time You rent it and at the time You return it to Avis is determined by visual inspection by Avis of the Vehicle's fuel gauge.
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Originally Posted by IAHtraveler
(Post 23110804)
Was it a Ford?
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Originally Posted by 4GSM
(Post 23111456)
Thanks for pointing this out, I will refer to their own T&Cs next time there is dispute about fuel.
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
(Post 23110445)
7.3 The fuel level of the Vehicle at the time You rent it and at the time You return it to Avis is determined by visual inspection by Avis of the Vehicle's fuel gauge.
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Originally Posted by IAHtraveler
(Post 23112715)
The link to that paragraph is HERE. if you ctrl+F, and search for "fuel", it's the 38th occurrence.
Based on the "visual inspection" I cannot imaging how my fuel gauge reading could be anything but 8/8.... in fact, looks like 9/8 to me. http://i61.tinypic.com/20qmf7o.png |
Originally Posted by 4GSM
(Post 23114141)
Thanks for the link and search instructions.... this is indeed buried deep in the T&Cs.
Based on the "visual inspection" I cannot imaging how my fuel gauge reading could be anything but 8/8.... in fact, looks like 9/8 to me. http://i61.tinypic.com/20qmf7o.png |
Originally Posted by IAHtraveler
(Post 23112715)
The link to that paragraph is HERE. if you ctrl+F, and search for "fuel", it's the 38th occurrence.
Does this only apply to Preferred (and above)? Can Avis use another method for "walk-ups", those who reserve without joining Preferred, etc? |
Originally Posted by sdsearch
(Post 23114542)
Can Avis use another method for "walk-ups", those who reserve without joining Preferred, etc?
http://i59.tinypic.com/2vdpiki.jpg |
Originally Posted by sdsearch
(Post 23114542)
That link is for Preferred service T&Cs. Now, the OP is Chairman, so that would apply. But the general question is:
Does this only apply to Preferred (and above)? Can Avis use another method for "walk-ups", those who reserve without joining Preferred, etc? |
Originally Posted by IAHtraveler
(Post 23110804)
Was it a Ford? Fords and a few others have the electronic fuel gauges and Avis uses those to determine fuel levels (against their T&Cs). With these, I always snap a pic of the fuel/odometer on the way in & out as I have been incorrectly hit for fuel a handgul of times. Also, unless these electronic gauges have been certified by state divisions of weights & means (or whatever your state calls it), I don't think it's legal to use this for charges.
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There is also this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/avis-...-thread-3.html
I have not run into a VR for a while. Maybe they start with places with high gas cost? |
Originally Posted by username
(Post 23124980)
There is also this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/avis-...-thread-3.html
I have not run into a VR for a while. Maybe they start with places with high gas cost? |
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