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Avianca ticket purchase in current financial climate

Old May 4, 20, 2:13 pm
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Avianca ticket purchase in current financial climate

I'd really like to buy Christmas tickets on Avianca with the current prices (crazy low) but I'm not sure it's a good idea with Avianca's financial stability in question. There was one article saying that Avianca only has three months of liquidity. Well flights aren't reopening until June 1, and shutdown of all April and May flights represents two full months of that liquidity, and probably a third of March was in shutdown too.
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Anyone have any opinions? Recommendations?
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Old May 5, 20, 1:49 am
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I wouldn't spend a dime on Avianca given their shaken financial ground. They recently got chastised by Colombian president Duque for sending emails to Lifemile and Avianca travelers promoting a May ticket sale promo (Colombian airspace is closed for the foreseeable future). They are strapped for cash and I don't think they survive to make it to Christmas 2020. Hold on to your money.
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Old May 5, 20, 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by supervillian
I wouldn't spend a dime on Avianca given their shaken financial ground. They recently got chastised by Colombian president Duque for sending emails to Lifemile and Avianca travelers promoting a May ticket sale promo (Colombian airspace is closed for the foreseeable future). They are strapped for cash and I don't think they survive to make it to Christmas 2020. Hold on to your money.
Thanks for the response. Appreciate the opinion. Didn't know that about Duque and the Lifemiles stuff. If he is criticizing them then it would imply that the ability to make a deal on a stimulus package (which has been rumored) might be hampered (although my Colombian wife says that bailouts are not very common in Colombia, especially to airlines...and there are plenty that will need it - Avianca of course, EasyFly, AirWingo, VivaAir, etc.)
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Old May 7, 20, 4:19 pm
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Avianca has been in trouble for many years now. I would not book anything with them at the moment.
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Old May 8, 20, 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by Tokar
Thanks for the response. Appreciate the opinion. Didn't know that about Duque and the Lifemiles stuff. If he is criticizing them then it would imply that the ability to make a deal on a stimulus package (which has been rumored) might be hampered (although my Colombian wife says that bailouts are not very common in Colombia, especially to airlines...and there are plenty that will need it - Avianca of course, EasyFly, AirWingo, VivaAir, etc.)
Sentiment among the public for a bailout isn't very high, so your wife is probably correct. With that said, Avianca is basically the national carrier and I can't see them folding completely.
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Old May 8, 20, 5:47 am
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Originally Posted by supervillian
Sentiment among the public for a bailout isn't very high, so your wife is probably correct. With that said, Avianca is basically the national carrier and I can't see them folding completely.
Avianca's situation, in regard to a bailout, is even more complicated than other airlines as they are an amalgamation of several central and south american airlines (El Salvador, Peru, Colombia, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras - and I'm probably forgetting others ...), which makes for a very difficult and complex negotiation without a clear path to receive help from poor and cash straped governments
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Old May 8, 20, 8:42 am
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Unless you are prepared to rely on credit card chargeback and other potential recoupement, I would not purchase AV tickets in advance.
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Old May 9, 20, 1:16 am
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Originally Posted by NPF
Avianca's situation, in regard to a bailout, is even more complicated than other airlines as they are an amalgamation of several central and south american airlines (El Salvador, Peru, Colombia, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras - and I'm probably forgetting others ...), which makes for a very difficult and complex negotiation without a clear path to receive help from poor and cash straped governments
A very valid point that you bring up. I believe United also owns up to 49% of the airline as well.
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Old May 10, 20, 2:36 pm
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As has been reported in other threads at this forum, Avianca has filled for Chap. 11 bankruptcy, in New York:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN22M0N1

In principle, this does not affect Lifemiles, a different entity,

Avianca Brasil tried this path, but as Brazil lacks a robust reorganization legislation (such as Chap. 11 in the US) in the end it folded up for lack of agreement with their debt holders.

Let's hope this time is different ...
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