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May 11, 2020, 7:33 am
#32
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: NWA WorldPerks, UA Mileage Plus & CX Marco Polo
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The question in these scenarios where the airline and FFP are owned separately is what happens to the miles if the airline does not survive. Without a air partner lifemiles are pretty worthless, especially for star alliance awards. I guess most likley scenario would be a new founded airline would buy the lifemiles program to use as their own.
I'm sure there are many programs like this but the other that comes to mind immediately is Air Canada and Aeroplan. Although Air Canada , not sure what would happen if they didn't.
I'm sure there are many programs like this but the other that comes to mind immediately is Air Canada and Aeroplan. Although Air Canada , not sure what would happen if they didn't.
May 11, 2020, 9:20 am
#33
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: DUS/AMS/HAM
Programs: HH-D / IHG-Sp / Marriott-P / LH-SEN / BA-S
Posts: 215
- JetPrivilige actually survived and now becomes InterMiles cashback despite Jet Airways bankruptcy.
- Topbonus however, did not although it actually survived for couple months. German market was just not viable and there is PayBack programme already.
- As for Lifemiles, it now depends on how many members it has and whether they can diversify their business like InterMiles or Aeroplan. I'd say for the next 1-2 months, Lifemiles is safe.
- Topbonus however, did not although it actually survived for couple months. German market was just not viable and there is PayBack programme already.
- As for Lifemiles, it now depends on how many members it has and whether they can diversify their business like InterMiles or Aeroplan. I'd say for the next 1-2 months, Lifemiles is safe.
May 11, 2020, 10:02 am
#34
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 3,710
Actually, we have a pretty good idea of what Aeroplan would have become without Air Canada, since that was the initial plan when AC said it would create its own program. As I recall, Aeroplan started forming many partnerships that essentially made them an OTA and points would become something like Altitude Reserve points and CNB Crystal points.
May 11, 2020, 3:05 pm
#35
Join Date: Apr 2012
Programs: AA, UA, Hilton, Choice, Wyndham
Posts: 415
You can't use them for gift cards on Amazon I tried multiple times about a week ago. I redeemed for Apple products on Amazon and now flipping on eBay to cash out. Even though the transaction has gone through on Amazon, now I am worried about a chargeback or something from the 'Lifemiles Credit Card' that the Iguana shopping program uses for Amazon purchases and it recharging my backup card.
I also tried to stack the Discover 20% up to $50 off $250 with Lifemiles. The front-end seemed to work all right, with the 20% coupon and the 1 of Discover cashback both deducting, with the Pay with Miles button showing the post-coupon number of miles needed. In the end, Amazon tries to bill the Lifemiles mastercard for the pre-coupon amount (because you have to use a Discover card to use the Discover coupon), then the payment method fails out.
May 11, 2020, 4:50 pm
#36
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
The question in these scenarios where the airline and FFP are owned separately is what happens to the miles if the airline does not survive. Without a air partner lifemiles are pretty worthless, especially for star alliance awards. I guess most likley scenario would be a new founded airline would buy the lifemiles program to use as their own.
May 12, 2020, 9:41 am
#37
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NYC
Posts: 9,122
May 12, 2020, 11:35 am
#38
Join Date: Oct 2018
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May 12, 2020, 4:21 pm
#39
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Programs: Flying: VA; Buying: AA, AS, AV, BA, UA!
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May 12, 2020, 6:25 pm
#40
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NYC
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