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Old Jul 20, 2014, 7:46 am
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The New Lifemiles Star Alliance Award Chart effective for booking made on or after 15 October 2014

https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/inc/starredawardsrow.aspx

The Previous Lifemiles Star Alliance Award Chart effective for bookings made before 15 October 2014 (travel could be after 15 October 2014)
NOTE: THE BELOW LINK NOW GOES TO THE NEW AWARD CHART (so it seems the old chart has been removed from the lifemiles.com web site)

https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/inc/starredawards.aspx

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Originally Posted by pandaperth
Here is a table of the changes coming in on October 15
Red means this many more miles will be needed
Green means this many fewer miles will be need
It's mostly red, of course


Sources:
Current Chart: https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/inc/starredawards.aspx
New chart from October 15: https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/tra/pro/proredenrow.aspx
(and click on the word "here" or "aqui" depending on your chosen language)
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 12:57 pm
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The miles shown are for Avianca flights...... Nothing but a generic statement for *A. But I expect a 25-50% increase.
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 1:42 pm
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If they are increasing Avianca prices by 60%, it is a safe bet that *A prices will likely increase at least by that much.
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 4:07 pm
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I am glad to see that Lifemiles is taking steps to curb the abuse of the program from certain sectors.
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by RTW1
The miles shown are for Avianca flights...... Nothing but a generic statement for *A. But I expect a 25-50% increase.
Avianca flights are priced dynamically (like Delta Skymiles)...
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 6:17 pm
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OK, I jumped to conclusions then.

Though 160k for a TATL business class award would be comparable to the 140k for the same on *A for a UA MP member.
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 7:09 pm
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So is this the new chart? It doesn't seem to make sense in some places:

https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/inc/starredawardsrow.aspx
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 7:23 pm
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New Star Alliance partner award chart
https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/inc/starredawardsrow.aspx

Probably subject to change.
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 8:28 pm
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SIN - USA and
SIN - Europe Business class
One Way goes up from 65k to 78k miles = 20% increase.

SIN - USA First class One Way goes up from 82,500 to 99,000 = 20% increase
SIN - Europe First class One Way goes up from 85,000 to 102,000 = 20% increase.

(interestingly, as before, it costs the same (business class) or a bit less ( first class) to fly from SIN to USA via Europe than SIN to Europe

Interestingly some good news for our friends in AUZ travelling to Europe
Business class one way DOWN from 87,500 to 85,000 = 2.8% DECREASE
But First class one way UP from 105,000 to 115,000 = 9.5% increase
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 8:37 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81
OK, I jumped to conclusions then.

Though 160k for a TATL business class award would be comparable to the 140k for the same on *A for a UA MP member.
Where are you getting 160k TATL business class from?

For *alliance redemptions

USA to Europe goes up from 52,500 business one way to 63,000 = 20% increase
First class for the same USA Europe goes up from 72,500 to 87,000 = same 20% increase

Generally looks like 20% increase in miles required for most routes - except for our Aussie friends who have some reductions and some smaller increases.

This 20% devaluation plus the 10% increase in cost to buy miles come October 15, 2014, effectively means we will pay 32% more in dollar terms. Lifemiles slowly moving from being great for * redemptions to ok value, not that great any more
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by datsuzei
So is this the new chart? It doesn't seem to make sense in some places:

https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/inc/starredawardsrow.aspx
Here's the old one, valid till 15 October 2014, in case someone wants to do comparisions

https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/inc/starredawards.aspx
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 9:56 pm
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Here is a table of the changes coming in on October 15
Red means this many more miles will be needed
Green means this many fewer miles will be need
It's mostly red, of course


Sources:
Current Chart: https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/inc/starredawards.aspx
New chart from October 15: https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/tra/pro/proredenrow.aspx
(and click on the word "here" or "aqui" depending on your chosen language)
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Old Jul 18, 2014, 11:06 pm
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Everything is gone. "Dead"miles is confirmed.
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Old Jul 19, 2014, 12:11 am
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what a cluster!!!
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Old Jul 19, 2014, 1:01 am
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Originally Posted by Moderator2
For housekeeping purposes, I'll merge two threads on the same subject.
May be Mods should change title of merged thread, as it is not limited to Europe any more

Current thread title: "Mileage Changes Effective Oct. 15 2014 - Award prices from Europe"
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Old Jul 19, 2014, 1:08 am
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Guess we have 3 months at least...
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