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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Jun 10, 2018, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
I can't find it. I'm pretty sure LM sent an email about a month or so ago with some discounted awards listed. I've gone through my emails and nothing. There were a range of routes with discounts, pretty much in line with the levels you mention.
I think this is the current list:

http://www.lifemiles.com/eng/tra/pro/prostarpro.aspx
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Old Jun 10, 2018, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by gpeso8
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Old Jun 11, 2018, 2:36 am
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How often does LM have these Star Alliance discounts? I noticed they had one last year, but how frequent are they because I'm loving them.
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Old Jun 11, 2018, 10:32 pm
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Seems JNB>PER on SAA is back in action, including Biz class. (85k)
And there's a little trick to save yourself nearly 30% of the miles required.


And, if you can line the dates up with SA 235 you can do LHR>JNB>PER in Biz for just under 90,000 using the same "trick".

CPT<>JNB<>DUR in J are also back. Haven't seen that for 12 months.

Last edited by Guvner067; Jun 11, 2018 at 10:39 pm
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 1:37 am
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Originally Posted by Guvner067
Seems JNB>PER on SAA is back in action, including Biz class. (85k)
And there's a little trick to save yourself nearly 30% of the miles required.


And, if you can line the dates up with SA 235 you can do LHR>JNB>PER in Biz for just under 90,000 using the same "trick".

CPT<>JNB<>DUR in J are also back. Haven't seen that for 12 months.
EU to AU should be 85k as per the award chart (standard redemption, no tricks)?
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF


EU to AU should be 85k as per the award chart (standard redemption, no tricks)?
Yes, but not via Africa AFAIK.
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Old Aug 7, 2018, 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by gpeso8
Is there another promo similar to the one above? I can see on the search results Tokyo HND to Bangkok BKK 16000 miles one way in economy (reverse is the usual 20000 miles).
I would love to explore what routes are on offer this time.
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 1:53 am
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All boomies gone?

I've been playing around with the LM website for an hour, trying to find boomies from 2 to 3. Have they all been pulled? Specifically, I tried TG, SQ and OZ. Just asking so I know whether or not I am wasting my time. Thanks, ps
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by planestupid
I've been playing around with the LM website for an hour, trying to find boomies from 2 to 3. Have they all been pulled? Specifically, I tried TG, SQ and OZ. Just asking so I know whether or not I am wasting my time. Thanks, ps
Have you seen any unicorns lately?
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by planestupid
I've been playing around with the LM website for an hour, trying to find boomies from 2 to 3. Have they all been pulled? Specifically, I tried TG, SQ and OZ. Just asking so I know whether or not I am wasting my time. Thanks, ps
none left right now. A F/J connecting to Y might give you savings. Guam is in zone 3.
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 9:22 am
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Just when I thought these were gone.....asia to usa via europe!
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 3:22 pm
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I decided to book NH F SFO-NRT connecting onward to CGK in X. Is there somewhere significantly better I could have considered to visit?
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Old Dec 7, 2018, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by nexusCFX
I decided to book NH F SFO-NRT connecting onward to CGK in X. Is there somewhere significantly better I could have considered to visit?
Beyond NRT? Best (i.e. longest trip in premium cabin) would have been DEL! SFO-NRT-DEL
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Old Dec 9, 2018, 10:37 am
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What happened to the NH J/F availability ex-SIN and ex-NRT? I'm pretty sure it used to be much more plentiful.
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Old Dec 9, 2018, 6:40 pm
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Same observation when I checked a few weeks ago. I reported it under the website booking problems thread. I checked SIN-HND/NRT and return for the full year and there wasn't one Biz seat forget even F. I used smart search and carrier search defaulted to NH - nada, nothing. Concerning.
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