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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Mar 25, 2015, 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Dennis
I´m willing to learn but how on earth is LM able to pull up a reservation without a record locator since then it woudn´t be a reservation at first?
That makes total sense to you and any other logical person. I believe some of the agents just make things up as they go along to get you off the phone.
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Old Mar 25, 2015, 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Dennis
I´m willing to learn but how on earth is LM able to pull up a reservation without a record locator since then it woudn´t be a reservation at first?
Yes, you can´t pay online at that stage but an agent should be able to charge you (if h/she is willing to do it).
Just give them a call again and ask especially for the reservation code and do the payment on the phone.
I tried to do that, now they say that they cant find the reservation. And its been more than 24hrs now and the seats havent come up online as yet.
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Old Mar 25, 2015, 11:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Kapil Ashok Pahilwani
I tried to do that, now they say that they cant find the reservation. And its been more than 24hrs now and the seats havent come up online as yet.
Ask for a supervisor and maybe he/she is willing to see and to issue the reservation/the ticket.

If nothing helps, wait for the named 72h timeline; then check online if your seats are back and if so, call LM to make your reservation on the phone, this time!
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Old Mar 27, 2015, 5:59 am
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CPH and FCO have availability to SIN in J with SQ, operated by 772. Few dates available, mainly next year in March.
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Old Mar 27, 2015, 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
CPH and FCO have availability to SIN in J with SQ, operated by 772. Few dates available, mainly next year in March.
I've also seen IST available.
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Old Mar 27, 2015, 9:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Dennis
Ask for a supervisor and maybe he/she is willing to see and to issue the reservation/the ticket.

If nothing helps, wait for the named 72h timeline; then check online if your seats are back and if so, call LM to make your reservation on the phone, this time!
Thanks Dennis!!!
The seats opened up extactly after 72hours. Managed to book them online itself.
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Old Mar 28, 2015, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Kapil Ashok Pahilwani
Thanks Dennis!!!
The seats opened up extactly after 72hours. Managed to book them online itself.
I´m glad that it worked out for you! ^
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Old Mar 28, 2015, 4:56 pm
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Fruit seems to be back? According to Mr. K
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 2:24 am
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Originally Posted by kanada99
Fruit seems to be back? According to Mr. K
What's that? A rumour about a rumour? Or did you check yourself?
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 3:34 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
What's that? A rumour about a rumour? Or did you check yourself?
ie Jun10, C3-C2 on Sauerkraut and Doener in C

wonder what elese comes back.....
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by kanada99
ie Jun10, C3-C2 on Sauerkraut and Doener in C

wonder what elese comes back.....
I'm not seeing anything from C3, tried the main gateways in SE Asia as well as NE except China.
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 6:20 am
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Originally Posted by kanada99
ie Jun10, C3-C2 on Sauerkraut and Doener in C

wonder what elese comes back.....
That's true, there are some routes from and to the fruit (actually some throughout the year, e.g. if you happen to be a descendent of Genghis Khan), however not the ones we were used to and found interesting.
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Old Mar 29, 2015, 9:35 pm
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I found some routes, but like you said not the ideal routings...maybe they will keep coming back with the crucial leg now available.

Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
That's true, there are some routes from and to the fruit (actually some throughout the year, e.g. if you happen to be a descendent of Genghis Khan), however not the ones we were used to and found interesting.
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Old Mar 30, 2015, 2:19 am
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It seems like more hassle than not now especially since the mileage required almost doubled... I will only consider it if the Merlion shows up its head again
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Old May 6, 2015, 7:04 am
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So I was looking at OS flights to Europe, and it seems that RT tix need fewer miles than the amount specified on their awards chart?
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