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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0

Old Nov 27, 2014, 8:11 am
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Looking for ideas to throw my Australian bush weapon....

If I throw it from the land of Bob and Doug or it's southern neighbour, is it still possible to have it get any flavor of fish sauce on it as it starts to return?

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Old Nov 27, 2014, 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by pr0digy25
Looking for ideas to throw my Australian bush weapon....

If I throw it from the land of Bob and Doug or it's southern neighbour, is it still possible to have it get any flavor of fish sauce on it as it starts to return?
+1
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Old Nov 27, 2014, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
A little off topic, but I don't think there's a C2-C3 non-stop flight that is 14 hours or even close
Depends if you count the time you board/deboard rather than take off and landing
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Old Nov 27, 2014, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
Depends if you count the time you board/deboard rather than take off and landing
even more off topic: if you start from Heathrow and it's starting to snow, your definition of flight time might be even much longer....
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Old Nov 27, 2014, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
even more off topic: if you start from Heathrow and it's starting to snow, your definition of flight time might be even much longer....
Sitting in the seat I'm thinking of now, this would count as brownie points LOL
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Old Nov 27, 2014, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
C1-C2 is boring lol, the flights aren't long enough to fully enjoy the savings, give me a 14hr flight from C2-C3 in J for close to half price and I'm in Heaven!
with half-10K I'm happy too.
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Old Nov 27, 2014, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by Artemio
with half-10K I'm happy too.
Is that a particularly challenging riddle? What do you want to tell us?
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Old Nov 27, 2014, 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Is that a particularly challenging riddle? What do you want to tell us?
I just wanted to tell it's possible. Ok, it's not a 14 hour flight, but it still has 9.5 flying hours.
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Old Nov 27, 2014, 12:19 pm
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You are all chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing the same old stuff...
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Old Nov 27, 2014, 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
You are all chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing and chewing the same old stuff...
Tell us the new stuff then
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Old Nov 27, 2014, 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Tell us the new stuff then
There really is not anything New. Program was established with serious flaws. Many of those have been fixed, and absent Fat Finger mistakes, they are not deliberately adding new mistakes, so we have to maximize utility of what we have left.
You are both in possession of almost everything worth knowing, and you are both among the best, most innovative and hard working, so stop arguing please.

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Old Nov 27, 2014, 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Tell us the new stuff then
OK - I will send you example of what I call "Reverse Married Segments".
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Old Nov 28, 2014, 2:19 am
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Who's arguing? I am definitely not.
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Old Nov 28, 2014, 3:43 am
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2-for-1 offer back again... Since I was able to cancel a past ticket, I'm back to 100k again, so definitely not buying (I most likely wouldn't buy them in any case) but REALLY want to know the impact of all these negative changes on their sales
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Old Nov 28, 2014, 5:16 am
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
Who's arguing? I am definitely not.
I know. but just want to make sure we work together.

Originally Posted by zagy
2-for-1 offer back again... Since I was able to cancel a past ticket, I'm back to 100k again, so definitely not buying (I most likely wouldn't buy them in any case) but REALLY want to know the impact of all these negative changes on their sales
Looks like they are panicking since they may be seriously missing their Q4 14 budget targets for ancillary revenue.

Give us 3X1 and I will buy big.

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