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Old May 23, 2013, 11:26 am
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Effectively, what they have sussed out is that they were "selling" miles at even lower than 1.5 cents per miles (which was the best cash rate they offered with the 100% bonus) when we chose the "more money/less miles option" when booking the ticket, and have now decided that the best rate we will get to purchase miles will be 1.5 cents per mile, period.

The only benefit of choosing "more money/less miles" now is the fact that this way you can overcome the 150,000 miles cap on buying miles during the 1.5 cent per mile promotions

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Old May 23, 2013, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by pr0digy25
Thanks... thought it would be of benefit to everyone.

I did it myself out of frustration last night of trying to get the LM site to accept a very simple and logical routing. After an hour or two I finally got it to bite, then the price had jumped.
How did you "get it to bite" ? I can't figure any way for a simple routing. Tried changing times and airlines - no luck.

Also, people are using their facebook page to comment on these changes. Maybe they will realize how unpopular their enhancements are.
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Old May 23, 2013, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by 1k650
Also, people are using their facebook page to comment on these changes. Maybe they will realize how unpopular their enhancements are.
I would encourage FT members to leave comments on their FB page to let them know how displeased we are with the way they have treated LM members so unprofessionally with their three stealthy devaluations within such a short period.

https://www.facebook.com/LifeMiles
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Old May 23, 2013, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by SingaporeDon
I would encourage FT members to leave comments on their FB page to let them know how displeased we are with the way they have treated LM members so unprofessionally with their three stealthy devaluations within such a short period.

https://www.facebook.com/LifeMiles
As you encouraged, I wrote something on their Page - not the best English, I have to admit, but I'm sure the Message is obvious.
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Old May 23, 2013, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by SingaporeDon
Looks like LifeMiles page is taking a beating over there!
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Old May 23, 2013, 2:10 pm
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A Freddie and that that! Either one of the big airlines is pushing them to increase the price of the miles to protect their F inventory from getting booked with cheap miles - prominent example is LH again - or they lately lost a lot of money by some major bugs and have to collect some money now to pay their "debts" to partner airlines
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Old May 23, 2013, 2:28 pm
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Just to recoup what they did in a very short period of time since joining A*:

1. Introduced $25 online booking fee
2. A 250 miles e-store fiasco
3. Devaluation by increasing many J redemptions by 5,000
4. Fixed most of the tricked routes (can't blame them)
5. Another devaluation, this time significant
6. Increased the cash portion price per mile

All of that unannounced.

Here's my guess what will happen sooner rather than later:

7. Increase of purchase price of miles to $35 per 1,000
8. Fix the remaining few tricked routes
9. Block LH F and some other premium cabins
10. Add fuel surcharges

All of that will, of course, also come unannounced.
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Old May 23, 2013, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by echino
Just to recoup what they did in a very short period of time since joining A*:

1. Introduced $25 online booking fee
2. A 250 miles e-store fiasco
3. Devaluation by increasing many J redemptions by 5,000
4. Fixed most of the tricked routes (can't blame them)
5. Another devaluation, this time significant
6. Increased the cash portion price per mile

All of that unannounced.

Here's my guess what will happen sooner rather than later:

7. Increase of purchase price of miles to $35 per 1,000
8. Fix the remaining few tricked routes
9. Block LH F and some other premium cabins
10. Add fuel surcharges

All of that will, of course, also come unannounced.
Completely agree on that!

Last edited by flo_147; May 23, 2013 at 4:35 pm
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Old May 23, 2013, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by echino
Just to recoup what they did in a very short period of time since joining A*:

1. Introduced $25 online booking fee
2. A 250 miles e-store fiasco
3. Devaluation by increasing many J redemptions by 5,000
4. Fixed most of the tricked routes (can't blame them)
5. Another devaluation, this time significant
6. Increased the cash portion price per mile

All of that unannounced.

Here's my guess what will happen sooner rather than later:

7. Increase of purchase price of miles to $35 per 1,000
8. Fix the remaining few tricked routes
9. Block LH F and some other premium cabins
10. Add fuel surcharges

All of that will, of course, also come unannounced.
Please do not give them any ideas! I would encourage you to remove this post...
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Old May 23, 2013, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by echino
9. Block LH F and some other premium cabins
LH basically blocks F for everyone more than 14 days out already (except Miles & More members).
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Old May 23, 2013, 3:35 pm
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Judging by the LM Facebook... they have turned on moderation on their wall.

Unless I'm getting a cached version, nobody has posted there for almost an hour.
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Old May 23, 2013, 5:01 pm
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They are performing hara-kiri in front of the world on Facebook.
LifeMiles has not made any recent changes in its program nor has devalued its currency. We’ve sent you a private message so you can tell us what happened in detail, please check your inbox or your other folders
Let's see how this ends...
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Old May 23, 2013, 5:17 pm
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The funny part is they are DENYING publicly that they have made any changes. Not only that they sent me a private message asking for my LM number. SURE...i'm gonna give that to them )
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Old May 23, 2013, 6:09 pm
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Sorry but lots of posts exposed all of these tricks and Lifemiles is catching up. This is a new game for them and it is a business not a charity. I can bet you LH or SQ raised a red flag or chargebacks were mounting too.

And to be frank, they did not devalue the chart this time (two weeks ago they did for certain routes which do not affect me whatsoever). This time they changed the cash and miles feature which was a great way to buy miles at even lower prices. I cant blame them for doing this, we all knew it was not going to last. I just blame them for not giving us a grace period like Hilton ( and am still mad at Hilton regardless).

I guess the famous rule:" Earn and Burn" applies. And with new programs, it is essential to NOT collect miles unless one has a trip in mind.

Lesson learned.

Last edited by lacuadra; May 23, 2013 at 9:08 pm
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Old May 23, 2013, 7:59 pm
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Glad my credit card didn't go through.
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