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LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)

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Old May 23, 14, 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by yerffej201 View Post
i've done a bit more testing and it looks like 90% great wall/massage/sling/experience international frequent flyer/duckies/maple bommeranges intra region c1 c2 c3 c6 are gone? this is sooooo sad

please pm if you've found something i haven't

seems like the aviancinization of routes fixed the other things
Gameover?
I checked and cannot find some route limit seat.
few days ago, it works fine and many dates....

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Old May 23, 14, 9:42 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Hmm... indeed, so AM would be free to sell PHX-MEX-YYZ vv as one ticket?
This is a perfectly legal sixth freedom routing. This is no different than flying, say Lufthansa, LHR-FRA-YYZ.
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Old May 24, 14, 1:50 am
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I'm not seeing any less availability in November for the routes I'm interested in.
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Old May 24, 14, 2:05 am
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef View Post
I'm not seeing any less availability in November for the routes I'm interested in.
boomerangs?
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Old May 24, 14, 3:17 am
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Originally Posted by zagy View Post
boomerangs?
Sure, lots from see three two and reverse
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Old May 24, 14, 3:54 am
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Just priced a number of intra-asia boomerangs routed via interesting places with no issue....

none involve 'forcing' flights on Angela M's national carrier though.
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Old May 24, 14, 4:19 am
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef View Post
Sure, lots from see three two and reverse
Yep, I can find some too. Although the most populars appear to be gone. For now at least (a girl can dream).
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Old May 24, 14, 6:09 am
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Oh wow that's annoying...
Would non cabotage routes be at risk of cancellation?
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Old May 24, 14, 7:09 am
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After reading all this I'm fairly skeptical towards taking a tricked route (non cab).
I know calling the airline is pretty much the dumbest thing I can do, but would much rather have it canceled than be stranded somewhere. Any advice?
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Old May 24, 14, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by jfkcnf View Post
After reading all this I'm fairly skeptical towards taking a tricked route (non cab).
I know calling the airline is pretty much the dumbest thing I can do, but would much rather have it canceled than be stranded somewhere. Any advice?
There's a difference between a cabotage route, which breaks federal rules, which is $25K per infringement, a mis-zoned airport, and excessive routing segments. Not sure which of the cases yours is, but the latter two are hardly a blip on the radar most of the time - sure, thanks to a higher profile than before, LM may be auditing some of the redemptions towards certain zones, but if you've been eticketed, zoning or routing isn't a problem. It's the issuing carrier that messed up, and they can't just revoke your ticket because of it.

To restate another way: if you're flying a cabotage route, you are (well, the airline is) breaking federal law. If you're flying a route that has too many segments or cost "too few points", that's an internal matter and they wouldn't risk receiving an IDB claim from you for cancelling it. So I wouldn't worry.
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Old May 24, 14, 8:47 am
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Its definitely not all boomerangs as for example C3 to C3 with a stop to safely deposit your hard earned money works (May 27). Therefore, if the system has been updated they didn't go as far as introducing MPM. But I haven't been able so far to find any still working route from/to C1
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Old May 24, 14, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by scibuff View Post
Its definitely not all boomerangs as for example C3 to C3 with a stop to safely deposit your hard earned money works (May 27). Therefore, if the system has been updated they didn't go as far as introducing MPM. But I haven't been able so far to find any still working route from/to C1
You're absolutely right. I still hold out hope (call me an optimist or naive) that the availability will come back later. After all, we have seen Candy/Woodcutter totally gone but then back to life again...
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Old May 24, 14, 9:57 am
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"Overshooters" still alive

While waiting on the fate of Boomerangs, I'm glad to report the health of "Overshooters":

Pay less by ordering another main course from the same chef

So as scibuff pointed out, definitely no MPM implemented.
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Old May 24, 14, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by FrugalLuxury View Post
You're absolutely right. I still hold out hope (call me an optimist or naive) that the availability will come back later. After all, we have seen Candy/Woodcutter totally gone but then back to life again...
Well it is not simple availability as there is space on the individual legs of boomerangs which worked before but show as all sold out. I guess there's nothing else to do but wait to see if anything comes back ...
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Old May 24, 14, 12:19 pm
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LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)

Yeah, hopefully it does come back. I'm only on my phone as I am on vacation down here in CPT, and searching LM from phone is a major pain so I didn't check any of the other things I am aware of. Quite happy I hadn't yet bought any miles this month though.
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