Jan 1, 2014, 5:17 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
NOTE: This thread has been superseded by the thread entitled LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0. Please follow the discussion there.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania
2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.
LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart
Cash & Miles redemptions: buying the max (60%) isn't always the best deal (unless you're purchasing all miles right there). Check here for the best CPM.
Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania
2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.
LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart
Cash & Miles redemptions: buying the max (60%) isn't always the best deal (unless you're purchasing all miles right there). Check here for the best CPM.
Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).
LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)
May 23, 2014, 9:29 pm
#2566
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: BA GGL, A3 GOLD, AS MVP GOLD, O6 DIAMOND
Posts: 89
i've done a bit more testing and it looks like 90% great wall/massage/sling/experience international frequent flyer/duckies/maple bommeranges intra region c1 c2 c3 c6 are gone? this is sooooo sad 
please pm if you've found something i haven't
seems like the aviancinization of routes fixed the other things
please pm if you've found something i haven't
seems like the aviancinization of routes fixed the other things
I checked and cannot find some route limit seat.
few days ago, it works fine and many dates....
Last edited by lxpatrick; May 23, 2014 at 9:47 pm
May 23, 2014, 9:42 pm
#2567
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVPG 75K
Posts: 2,574
May 24, 2014, 1:50 am
#2568
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: CDG
Programs: TK Elite
Posts: 1,611
I'm not seeing any less availability in November for the routes I'm interested in.
May 24, 2014, 3:54 am
#2571
Join Date: Jun 2010
Programs: IC Amb :-(, UA silver, BA Gold, SPG Plat, A-Club Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 913
Just priced a number of intra-asia boomerangs routed via interesting places with no issue....
none involve 'forcing' flights on Angela M's national carrier though.
none involve 'forcing' flights on Angela M's national carrier though.
May 24, 2014, 6:09 am
#2573
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: JFK
Programs: -
Posts: 178
Oh wow that's annoying...
Would non cabotage routes be at risk of cancellation?
Would non cabotage routes be at risk of cancellation?
May 24, 2014, 7:09 am
#2574
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: JFK
Programs: -
Posts: 178
After reading all this I'm fairly skeptical towards taking a tricked route (non cab).
I know calling the airline is pretty much the dumbest thing I can do, but would much rather have it canceled than be stranded somewhere. Any advice?
I know calling the airline is pretty much the dumbest thing I can do, but would much rather have it canceled than be stranded somewhere. Any advice?
May 24, 2014, 8:11 am
#2575
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 6,924
To restate another way: if you're flying a cabotage route, you are (well, the airline is) breaking federal law. If you're flying a route that has too many segments or cost "too few points", that's an internal matter and they wouldn't risk receiving an IDB claim from you for cancelling it. So I wouldn't worry.
May 24, 2014, 8:47 am
#2576
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: BTS
Posts: 611
Its definitely not all boomerangs as for example C3 to C3 with a stop to safely deposit your hard earned money works (May 27). Therefore, if the system has been updated they didn't go as far as introducing MPM. But I haven't been able so far to find any still working route from/to C1
May 24, 2014, 9:02 am
#2577
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MUC
Programs: *A Gold, OW Emerald; IHG S, SPG P, HH D, HGP D, Accor P, Carlson G
Posts: 215
Its definitely not all boomerangs as for example C3 to C3 with a stop to safely deposit your hard earned money works (May 27). Therefore, if the system has been updated they didn't go as far as introducing MPM. But I haven't been able so far to find any still working route from/to C1
May 24, 2014, 9:57 am
#2578
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MUC
Programs: *A Gold, OW Emerald; IHG S, SPG P, HH D, HGP D, Accor P, Carlson G
Posts: 215
"Overshooters" still alive
While waiting on the fate of Boomerangs, I'm glad to report the health of "Overshooters":
Pay less by ordering another main course from the same chef
So as scibuff pointed out, definitely no MPM implemented.
Pay less by ordering another main course from the same chef
So as scibuff pointed out, definitely no MPM implemented.
May 24, 2014, 9:59 am
#2579
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: BTS
Posts: 611
Well it is not simple availability as there is space on the individual legs of boomerangs which worked before but show as all sold out. I guess there's nothing else to do but wait to see if anything comes back ...
May 24, 2014, 12:19 pm
#2580
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Airline nobody. Sad!
Posts: 26,062
LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)
Yeah, hopefully it does come back. I'm only on my phone as I am on vacation down here in CPT, and searching LM from phone is a major pain so I didn't check any of the other things I am aware of. Quite happy I hadn't yet bought any miles this month though.