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LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)

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Old Mar 4, 14, 10:58 am
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agree completely

Originally Posted by maverick17 View Post
this thread is amazingly consistent.

1. people discuss a few tricks. some have more details than others.

2. blogger posts something.

3. people here complain about bloggers. (there's another thread for this, might be better to discuss over there)

4. people here complain about other people here and the mods have to intervene.

4. new crop of posters start talking about 99% old stuff.

5. old people don't like the way the thread goes and leave but read it once in awhile.

6. wash, rinse and repeat.
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Old Mar 5, 14, 11:20 pm
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Kinda on topic/off topic and I haven't checked in a while, but does LM still not allow mixed cabin award tickets?
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Old Mar 5, 14, 11:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Kraut View Post
Kinda on topic/off topic and I haven't checked in a while, but does LM still not allow mixed cabin award tickets?
Correct, still not available.
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Old Mar 6, 14, 12:14 am
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Originally Posted by Maayan View Post
Correct, still not available.
Crap. That puts a bug into a F trick it since the connecting flights are in C or Y
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Old Mar 6, 14, 1:19 am
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Just booked my first successful LM C award to the fruity place to get me back home to Germany from PVG. Thanks to everyone who contributed on this thread!

Now the challenge is to get back to PVG...I'm aware of one C2-C2 that routes via PEK and two via ICN, but haven't seen anything via PVG. Does anybody know if such a route exists? Even if it's not C2-C2, but rather C2-C2.5 or sth like that...

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Old Mar 6, 14, 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by ranjid View Post
Just booked my first successful LM C award to the fruity place to get me back home to Germany from PVG. Thanks to everyone who contributed on this thread!

Now the challenge is to get back to PVG...I'm aware of one C2-C2 that routes via PEK and two via ICN, but haven't seen anything via PVG. Does anybody know if such a route exists? Even if it's not C2-C2, but rather C2-C2.5 or sth like that...

Cheers, ranjid
Ranjid, a few comments, if you allow:

But first, other members (you know who you are ;-) please shout if you think I'm giving away too much, I'm happy to edit. I believe your post, Ranjid is right on the border...

So, why do you think you have heard about PEK or INC but not PVG? Could there be a connection with the StarAlliance partner list?

Secondly, you might want to use http://routemap.staralliance.com/ to see potential connections. You would for instance immediately see that there is no direct connection from PVG to C2.5. Also none to Russia.

However, I hear that short flights in Asia can be bought(!) for relatively little money
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Old Mar 6, 14, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen View Post
Ranjid, a few comments, if you allow:

But first, other members (you know who you are ;-) please shout if you think I'm giving away too much, I'm happy to edit. I believe your post, Ranjid is right on the border...

So, why do you think you have heard about PEK or INC but not PVG? Could there be a connection with the StarAlliance partner list?

Secondly, you might want to use http://routemap.staralliance.com/ to see potential connections. You would for instance immediately see that there is no direct connection from PVG to C2.5. Also none to Russia.

However, I hear that short flights in Asia can be bought(!) for relatively little money
Thanks for your feedback...I'll keep working on it!

PS: intra-China flights are not as cheap as you might think
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Old Mar 6, 14, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by ranjid View Post
Thanks for your feedback...I'll keep working on it!

PS: intra-China flights are not as cheap as you might think
I've just checked on ITA: a OW PEK-PVG flight is a bit over 200 Dollars, so that's around 15k miles at the current rate. So that's an additional restriction to your search window (Only Europe and Middle East/North Africa would be much cheaper).

Good luck
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Old Mar 6, 14, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen View Post
I've just checked on ITA: a OW PEK-PVG flight is a bit over 200 Dollars,

Good luck
ITA does not work for intra China at all. Flights there are very cheap :

07:25 BJS 09:55 SHA
China Eastern Airlines MU5183
Direct
Duration
2h30m
Flight details
from
CNY 570 = 100usd

If someone thinks that LM will guide you to every city on earth in J for 22,5 k miles, he should search for a different FFP. Almost always there must be a positioning flight
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Old Mar 6, 14, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by ulus View Post
ITA does not work for intra China at all. Flights there are very cheap :

07:25 BJS 09:55 SHA
China Eastern Airlines MU5183
Direct
Duration
2h30m
Flight details
from
CNY 570 = 100usd
Thanks, ulus. Didn't have a clue about that.
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If someone thinks that LM will guide you to every city on earth in J for 22,5 k miles, he should search for a different FFP. Almost always there must be a positioning flight
And isn't it nice that somebody still always searches for new routes? Gives us new options when old ones get shut down
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Old Mar 6, 14, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen View Post

And isn't it nice that somebody still always searches for new routes? Gives us new options when old ones get shut down
sure, it is every new find makes a big smile on my face
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Old Mar 6, 14, 1:16 pm
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Ladies & Gentlemen, der Kids,
as much fun as this banter may seem, it doesn't belong here. 13 OT posts deleted.

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Old Mar 6, 14, 2:38 pm
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Is there a tricked way to get from C2 to ICN or Japan in J that doesn't require a Russian visa?
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Old Mar 6, 14, 6:23 pm
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Originally Posted by zagy View Post
Is there a tricked way to get from C2 to ICN or Japan in J that doesn't require a Russian visa?
Yes, possible for 12.5k (Y) or 25k (C) to TYO, no Russian visa required. ICN might be possible as well, haven't checked yet.

Even checking bags is no problem at all for this one.

Cheers, Ranjid

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Old Mar 6, 14, 7:18 pm
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