Award Chart Devaluation
Dec 21, 2012, 4:50 am
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With AV, more AV miles increases the award redemption options on AV metal. Think of it as standard award pricing vs premium award pricing for expanded availability on the loyalty program operator's own planes.
Dec 21, 2012, 2:50 pm
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Small devaluation buster: going from Europe to USA? Shave a little off by stretching the award to the Caribbean. Connections seen: BOS, CLT, DCA, EWR, IAD, JFK, LGA, ORD, PHL, YUL, YYZ. Remember carry-on-only if you connect at IAD and think you might be too exhausted to actually make it all the way to the beach. 
Medium buster: IST from pretty much anywhere is best treated as a connection.
Medium buster: IST from pretty much anywhere is best treated as a connection.
Last edited by zbenye; Dec 21, 2012 at 4:03 pm Reason: More connections
Dec 21, 2012, 4:31 pm
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Small devaluation buster: going from Europe to USA? Shave a little off by stretching the award to the Caribbean. Connections seen: BOS, CLT, DCA, EWR, IAD, JFK, LGA, ORD, PHL, YUL, YYZ. Remember carry-on-only if you connect at IAD and think you might be too exhausted to actually make it all the way to the beach.
Medium buster: IST from pretty much anywhere is best treated as a connection.
Medium buster: IST from pretty much anywhere is best treated as a connection.
Dec 21, 2012, 9:02 pm
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I was able to try some of these and can confirm they work. thanks!
Dec 21, 2012, 10:56 pm
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As a newcomer to this game zbenye's posts were actually pretty useful for me... I am loving reading about LifeMiles thank for the info and all the help getting acclimatized!
Dec 22, 2012, 8:57 am
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Yeah, there are some more. But really, posting trivia like Europe to Caribbean or Istanbul connections that most everybody already know is silly. Where can we have an "improper English" discussion of the more meaningful advantages of LM? I don't care for private circles - that's not the spirit. Really, I'm almost ready to just spell out [redacted] right here on the open forum. Oops, almost did (but that would be a loss only to those in dazzling MEL).
Last edited by zbenye; Dec 27, 2012 at 2:52 am
Dec 22, 2012, 9:51 am
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Yeah, there are some more. But really, posting trivia like Europe to Caribbean or Istanbul connections that most everybody already know is silly. Where can we have an "improper English" discussion of the more meaningful advantages of LM? I don't care for private circles - that's not the spirit. Really, I'm almost ready to just spell out Chi.... right here on the open forum. Oops, almost did (but that would be a loss only to those in dazzling MEL).
Dec 22, 2012, 1:48 pm
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Today's finds are from TYO:
- Reverse the devaluation of the award to BKK by optionally visiting MFM.
- 17.5K is the magic number also to Germany and Turkey. Devaluation shmivaluation!
- I previously posted that Aussies and their neighbors can get to east Asia for 17.5K via south Asia. Not only is that reaffirmed, but I'm also delighted to inform that there are at least 15 locations that I've counted so far in east Asia that are accommodating in this manner - and these do not require an extra visa! Also, since there is such an abundance of locations, one may be near your actual destination, making it highly probable that you could use these devaluation busters also to get back home.
- Reverse the devaluation of the award to BKK by optionally visiting MFM.
- 17.5K is the magic number also to Germany and Turkey. Devaluation shmivaluation!
- I previously posted that Aussies and their neighbors can get to east Asia for 17.5K via south Asia. Not only is that reaffirmed, but I'm also delighted to inform that there are at least 15 locations that I've counted so far in east Asia that are accommodating in this manner - and these do not require an extra visa! Also, since there is such an abundance of locations, one may be near your actual destination, making it highly probable that you could use these devaluation busters also to get back home.
Last edited by zbenye; Dec 27, 2012 at 2:53 am
Dec 22, 2012, 6:34 pm
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Huge thanks to zbenye for the increased transparency.
With two small kids running around I no longer have the time to spend with my decoder ring figuring these things out. But with two more business class tickets to pay for, I appreciate any help with tips and tricks.
With two small kids running around I no longer have the time to spend with my decoder ring figuring these things out. But with two more business class tickets to pay for, I appreciate any help with tips and tricks.
Dec 22, 2012, 9:13 pm
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Dec 22, 2012, 10:52 pm
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If you're willing to drop a segment, I see 15k. OW ex TYO (and that has been here for a long time)
Dec 23, 2012, 1:36 am
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May I ask two things: a) is it Europe proper or the eastern tip? b) are you seeing this inside the next 7 months? - because that's the scope to which I've been limiting my searches.
I realize that probably most of what I'm getting all excited and posting about is already known to most folks; I just started actively researching two weeks ago, so definitely very late to the party.
And just so you won't get reprimanded for using abbreviations here, I recommend you edit your post to spell out One Way, and replace "ex" with "out of"...
And of course since we're required to stay on topic, this is all very relevant to mitigating the impact of the recent devaluation.
Dec 23, 2012, 2:30 am
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And just so you won't get reprimanded for using abbreviations here, I recommend you edit your post to spell out One Way, and replace "ex" with "out of"...
And of course since we're required to stay on topic, this is all very relevant to mitigating the impact of the recent devaluation.