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Old Aug 17, 2013, 12:43 am
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Please do your homework before buying Lifemiles. It is what it is... for some that's useful, for others it's not.

Biggest complaints are about
- mixed class bookings are available but now many of the suitable connections dont show
- not being able to book anything that isn't available online (there are work-arounds, see screenshot method below)
- the quality of the call center (English speaking agents are scarce, you might get thrown in a loop with call transfers within their call center)
- no stopovers (>24H) or open jaws, but you can book one way awards
- no reservations on Certain subsidiaries of Star Alliance carriers (Lufthansa Cityline, Germanwings)

Problems with ticketing / lack of confirmation screen or email
- write down the confirmation number shown on the screen after confirming your purchase.
check here: http://serviciosenlinea.avianca.com/...doReserva.aspx

Sometimes, even if you cannot see the PNR, the record may have been created, so better to call them and give them flight details you were trying to book. They can find the PNR from those details.
- ticketing usually takes place within 10-15 min of booking
- but it may also take up to 2 days
- if miles have been deducted from your account and a temporary authorization has been placed on your CC, you're probably fine even if you did not see a confirmation screen
- if no e-ticket number is visible on checkmytrip.com after two days, you should contact LifeMiles. You can expedite the ticketing by emailing with your booking reference to: [email protected] after you have booked, especially if you have booked last minute flights, and need ticketing straight away

Screenshot method.
So, on a date you are looking for in the future, there is availability for LAX-NRT and NRT-BKK. But not LAX-NRT-BKK.
It may be a case of the LM system not offering the through connection.

Take three screen shots - two 'available' screen shots for LAX-NRT and NRT-BKK and the 'not available' screen for LAX-BKK.
Send them all off with a scan of your passport page (PDF) and LM will make the booking manually for you.

Send to these two email addresses, and CC yourself (just for your records)
[email protected]
[email protected]

Sample email:
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Email topic: Urgent request for booking Lifemiles Award
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Dear Sirs,

I have tried several times, over several days, but the following itinerary does not show on the website.
Please see the three attached screenshots I took just now.
Please do the manual booking First Class/Business class for xx,000 miles. (*Know how many miles the whole award should cost-here, to avoid surprises once ticketed)

The availability is only 1 seat for this date, so please process this request urgently before it is gone.

Los Angeles (LAX) - Bangkok (BKK)
Saturday August 11th 2018
NH 175 connecting to NH 807
(*Provide the specific flight numbers you want, to avoid surprises once ticketed)

My passport copy (Number xxxx, expiry 20xx/xx/xx, Nationality xxx) is attached in this email.

LifeMiles Number: xxx
First Name: xxx
Last name: xxx
Date of Birth: Month, date, year
Gender: Male/Female
Email: xxxx
Phone Number: +1-xxxx

Regards,
XXX
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Old Jul 4, 2019, 5:47 am
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Also, not completely related but I keep seeing availability on Aeroplan and United for some miles tickets that I don't see on the Lifemiles website. Do they not have the same access to partner tickets?
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Old Jul 4, 2019, 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by gbenrus25
This is scary. Was about buying Lifetime miles using their current promo to possibly book Turkish and Air India (trip to Maldives) flights.

Does anyone know which airlines are reliable on their website? Don't want to buy and have it be a waste.

Thanks
I've seen plenty of availability on Turkish and Air India. Air India can error out when it comes time to book, but if you can see it on the website, the call centre will be able to book it for you.


Originally Posted by gbenrus25
Also, not completely related but I keep seeing availability on Aeroplan and United for some miles tickets that I don't see on the Lifemiles website. Do they not have the same access to partner tickets?
See post 1422 a couple above yours. you will see that availability between UA or CA and LM is not matched.
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Old Jul 4, 2019, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
I've seen plenty of availability on Turkish and Air India. Air India can error out when it comes time to book, but if you can see it on the website, the call centre will be able to book it for you.




See post 1422 a couple above yours. you will see that availability between UA or CA and LM is not matched.
Thanks for the responses. Much appreciated

I wonder if the other way ever applies. Do some tickets show up on LM but not on UA or CA or are LM miles worth the least of all 3.

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Old Jul 4, 2019, 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by gbenrus25
I wonder if the other way ever applies. Do some tickets show up on LM but not on UA or CA or are LM miles worth the least of all 3.
Yes, sometimes LM have bizarre availability not available ANYWHERE else. If you can acquire UA miles at $0.013, by all means go with them. At the price LM are selling theirs, no *A can beat them on value, especially for flyers that don't have access to US credit cards, etc.
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Old Jul 4, 2019, 11:29 pm
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
Yes, sometimes LM have bizarre availability not available ANYWHERE else. If you can acquire UA miles at $0.013, by all means go with them. At the price LM are selling theirs, no *A can beat them on value, especially for flyers that don't have access to US credit cards, etc.
Fair enough. Good to know it also has some extra availability. I do wonder how these guys allocate seats to their partners. Weird all the partner airlines don't have the same allocations.
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Old Jul 11, 2019, 5:30 am
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Award Seat Gone After Booking Errors Out

I recently tried to do an award booking by specifically selecting the airline (Ethiopian). I was able to enter the passenger info and credit card information but it ended up erroring out. The page briefly showed a PNR code but i didn't write it down before the page errored. I received no email nor was points deducted, but now the award seat is gone.

Anyone experience this? Can lifemiles look up the booking using my account number not the PNR code? Seems like the booking was half way completed since it took the available award, but it wasn't issued to me. Wonderful website.
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Old Jul 11, 2019, 5:36 am
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Old Jul 11, 2019, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by BLTraveler
I recently tried to do an award booking by specifically selecting the airline (Ethiopian). I was able to enter the passenger info and credit card information but it ended up erroring out. The page briefly showed a PNR code but i didn't write it down before the page errored. I received no email nor was points deducted, but now the award seat is gone.

Anyone experience this? Can lifemiles look up the booking using my account number not the PNR code? Seems like the booking was half way completed since it took the available award, but it wasn't issued to me. Wonderful website.
A search of this thread would have given you the answer right away.
If a PNR showed, then the booking is alive for 48 hours. Quickly call LM, give them your LM number and they should see the booking in your account. Alternatively, download the Avianca airlines mobile app (not LM mobile app) and log in with your LM account. "Your trips" should show this booking.
Important to check that it was actually ticketed (with a 13 digit ticket number). If not ticketed, then call LM and complete the CC payment (if payment didn't go through). You have 48 hours since it errored out. Act quickly. The app or a call.
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Old Jul 21, 2019, 6:30 pm
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anyone have a work around to book Air Canada flights? (errors out when going to traveller's section) i really don't want to call into the call center again. thanks.
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by sxc234
anyone have a work around to book Air Canada flights? (errors out when going to traveller's section) i really don't want to call into the call center again. thanks.
Have you tried selecting Air Canada from the drop down list of airlines (rather than 'smart search')?

This works for some airlines to get you through to booking. If not, there's not much you can do except call the call centre.
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 5:09 am
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
Have you tried selecting Air Canada from the drop down list of airlines (rather than 'smart search')?

This works for some airlines to get you through to booking. If not, there's not much you can do except call the call centre.
i have tried that and unfortunately still doesnt work. Oh well thanks. Its kind of unbelievable they still have not fixed these issues
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 9:54 pm
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anyone have a work around to book Air Canada flights? (errors out when going to traveller's section) i really don't want to call into the call center again. thanks.
I too was trying to book an AC flight and saw availability on both LM and Aeroplan. I tried to book through LM and was given the Error message, so I emailed them using the Screenshot method. They replied immediately and said they would escalate it. About two days afterwards, I received an email showing my reservation, but that I needed to call back within a certain time period to process the tax payment so they can issue the ticket.

I called and spoke to an agent who patched me through to the payment dept, where they asked me to input my LM account PIN. After that, they confirmed the flight and taxes, etc and asked for my credit card details. What was odd was that they asked for me to give it to them verbally - and not through the key pad. I asked them why was there no automated key pad, and they said, “Because this is a manual booking, we need to take your payment manually.”

Going against my better judgment, because I didn’t want to lose the flight, I gave them all my CC details. The ticket was issued in about 2 or 3 days, but then I received a call from my CC issuer, questioning about fraudulent looking charges. Turns out, there were 6 pending charges to my CC from some online Chinese shopping website totalling over $800! Luckily my CC company caught the charges, but the card is now cancelled and I need to be issued a new one.

So it seems, although the Screenshot method seems to work when you get an Error message, and you may get your ticket, be wary of potential fraudulent CC activity.
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by Ronin99

Going against my better judgment, because I didn’t want to lose the flight, I gave them all my CC details. The ticket was issued in about 2 or 3 days, but then I received a call from my CC issuer, questioning about fraudulent looking charges. Turns out, there were 6 pending charges to my CC from some online Chinese shopping website totalling over $800! Luckily my CC company caught the charges, but the card is now cancelled and I need to be issued a new one.

So it seems, although the Screenshot method seems to work when you get an Error message, and you may get your ticket, be wary of potential fraudulent CC activity.
Hi and welcome to FT Glad you got your flights.

Giving your credit card over the phone is normal with LM, same as it is with any other airline around the world... I've done it dozens of times with no problems (touch wood!).

Hard to say if the two situations are even related in your case (the fradulent transactions from China).

For future reference, if this was am itinerary that showed completely on line (each segment shows together, in order), you can call the call centre directly to book. It's only if one or more segments shows individually, but not the whole itinerary, that you need to use the screenshot method.
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Ronin99
Going against my better judgment, because I didn’t want to lose the flight, I gave them all my CC details. The ticket was issued in about 2 or 3 days, but then I received a call from my CC issuer, questioning about fraudulent looking charges. Turns out, there were 6 pending charges to my CC from some online Chinese shopping website totalling over $800! Luckily my CC company caught the charges, but the card is now cancelled and I need to be issued a new one.

So it seems, although the Screenshot method seems to work when you get an Error message, and you may get your ticket, be wary of potential fraudulent CC activity.
It's hard to see how providing credit card details over the phone to an airline reservations agent would lead to fraudulent charges from an online Chinese shopping site. The agent would have keyed in the details into their reservations system as you spoke them. I doubt the agent wrote them down and then keyed them in later, and then left the paper lying about. Have you used that same credit card at a hotel or online shopping portal or restaurant? There have been many cases of data leakage and security breaches at such establishments and their backend systems and the vendors involved with the processing.
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Old Jul 23, 2019, 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
Giving your credit card over the phone is normal with LM, same as it is with any other airline around the world... I've done it dozens of times with no problems (touch wood!).
+1

Most likely a bad coincidence
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