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Old Nov 16, 2012, 11:52 am
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Originally Posted by 1k650
No, it is not 14 day out. It is for next week. Also shows on ANA, but not on LM. Are they blocking LH first?
Hm. They aren't supposed to be. Maybe worth a call to their phone centre?
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by 1k650
No, it is not 14 day out. It is for next week. Also shows on ANA, but not on LM. Are they blocking LH first?
How is that possible? What routes?
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by 1k650
Are they blocking LH first?
I checked some routes like SEA-FRA, and lifemiles website shows LH F fine. What dates and route are you looking at?
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 1:27 am
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Originally Posted by echino
I checked some routes like SEA-FRA, and lifemiles website shows LH F fine. What dates and route are you looking at?
MUC-SFO on 11/25 ?
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 1:48 am
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Originally Posted by 1k650
MUC-SFO on 11/25 ?
That's simply not available right now, not a case of blocking. MUC-SFO on 11/20 is available, as KVS indicates.

If you used United to check for availability, sorry to disappoint you. There's a fair bit of business class on other days if you need to be on that nonstop.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by dre_techie
That's simply not available right now, not a case of blocking. MUC-SFO on 11/20 is available, as KVS indicates.

If you used United to check for availability, sorry to disappoint you. There's a fair bit of business class on other days if you need to be on that nonstop.
Check first class availability. That is what I was talking about - LH first....
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by 1k650
Check first class availability.
I did, AVAILABLE 11/20, not 11/25. The question is where are you checking?

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Old Nov 18, 2012, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by dre_techie
I did, AVAILABLE 11/20, not 11/25. The question is where are you checking?

United Airlines - shows available

Where are you checking?
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 2:07 am
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Originally Posted by 1k650
United Airlines - shows available

Where are you checking?
That's phantom on UA. Check using ANA award tool if it's more than 4/5 days out (they don't show closer than that to departure), or KVS within that timeframe with SP1 setting. The screenshot of 11/20 is from Lifemiles, to be exact.

I checked with ANA's site & KVS (NH method) as I've indicated in the original message. Keep in mind ANA's website will not show you that seat on 11/20, as it's too close to departure, I saw it via KVS. And when there was availability there, Lifemiles did find that seat.

Please PM me if you'd like me to lookup something else. A lot of people get instant notifications from this thread and we're slightly OT once it's been established they didn't block LH F.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by dre_techie
That's phantom on UA. Check using ANA award tool if it's more than 4/5 days out (they don't show closer than that to departure), or KVS within that timeframe with SP1 setting. The screenshot of 11/20 is from Lifemiles, to be exact.

I checked with ANA's site & KVS (NH method) as I've indicated in the original message. Keep in mind ANA's website will not show you that seat on 11/20, as it's too close to departure, I saw it via KVS. And when there was availability there, Lifemiles did find that seat.

Please PM me if you'd like me to lookup something else. A lot of people get instant notifications from this thread and we're slightly OT once it's been established they didn't block LH F.
I just checked Expertflyer. LH First is available on 11/25 MUC-SFO on Expertflyer.

It is not available on Lifemiles. Not available on ANA tool.

But it is available on UA (? phantom, as you say). I can ticket it. Just tried.

What is going on ?

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Old Nov 18, 2012, 2:41 am
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Originally Posted by 1k650
I just checked Expertflyer. LH First is available on 11/25 MUC-SFO on Expertflyer.

It is not available on Lifemiles. Not available on ANA tool.

But it is available on UA (? phantom, as you say). I can ticket it. Just tried.

What is going on ?
I don't know then, 2 seats available through M&M, 1 on EF which mirrors UA's availability and none through ANA or Lifemiles. You need someone more experienced to help.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 2:43 am
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Originally Posted by dre_techie
I don't know then, 2 seats available through M&M, 1 on EF which mirrors UA's availability and none through ANA or Lifemiles. You need someone more experienced to help.
Agreed - let's see if someone can solve this mystery. Perhaps Expertflyer experts?
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 3:01 am
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Originally Posted by 1k650
I just checked Expertflyer. LH First is available on 11/25 MUC-SFO on Expertflyer.

It is not available on Lifemiles. Not available on ANA tool.

But it is available on UA (? phantom, as you say). I can ticket it. Just tried.

What is going on ?
when you say you can ticket it... did you complete the booking and get through to the payment stage? I thought I read that it trips you up at the last hurdle?

If not - go for it on UA!
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 3:04 am
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Originally Posted by dre_techie
I don't know then, 2 seats available through M&M, 1 on EF which mirrors UA's availability and none through ANA or Lifemiles. You need someone more experienced to help.
ANA is 100% reliable. You're booking on UA.com will either stall, or show 'this segment is waitlisted'
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 6:13 am
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Originally Posted by 1k650
I just checked Expertflyer. LH First is available on 11/25 MUC-SFO on Expertflyer.
It is not available on Lifemiles. Not available on ANA tool.
But it is available on UA (? phantom, as you say). I can ticket it. Just tried.
What is going on ?
Don't necessarily see anything usual here. ANA says no and LM says no. That fact the EF shows available is irrelevant as those avails are likely for M&M members only, and not for *A partners. Agree with others on the accuracy of ANA. And UA is UA. When you say you can ticket on UA, how far in the process did you get? Did you actually ticket?
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