New OZ Elite Membership Qualifying/Maintenance Standard
#46
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Programs: OZ Diamond (*G), KQ Asante Gold (ST+), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,505
If you are OZ elite, you'll get a 5/10/15/20% bonus on top of that on OZ flights. This is only a bonus for award miles, not status miles!
#47
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 595
So if i were to fly partner D fare that earns 125% miles credit to Asiana, how many miles will count towards Status miles?
From my understanding above the entire 125% D fare miles will count towards the goal, and not just 100% actual miles flown.
Thinking to throw away my last segment thats shy of hitting 40K. Hence the nit pinching calculation
Last edited by terbangalways; Jan 16, 2019 at 9:34 pm
#48
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Programs: OZ Diamond (*G), KQ Asante Gold (ST+), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,505
I'm referring to Status miles to qualify for *G at 40K.
So if i were to fly partner D fare that earns 125% miles credit to Asiana, how many miles will count towards Status miles?
From my understanding above the entire 125% D fare miles will count towards the goal, and not just 100% actual miles flown.
Thinking to throw away my last segment thats shy of hitting 40K. Hence the nit pinching calculation
So if i were to fly partner D fare that earns 125% miles credit to Asiana, how many miles will count towards Status miles?
From my understanding above the entire 125% D fare miles will count towards the goal, and not just 100% actual miles flown.
Thinking to throw away my last segment thats shy of hitting 40K. Hence the nit pinching calculation
Just like if you fly a heavily discounted route that only awards 25%, you will only get 25% status miles too.
#49
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 595
#50
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SYD
Programs: OZ Platinum LifeTime; DL PM; QF Gold; VA Gold; HH Diamond; IHG Diamond
Posts: 1,128
You really must be a noob to Asiana...
it's OZ, not QZ
#52
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 10
Looking over the qualification requirements I noticed something confusing:
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Qualification Period
What does that mean? Does it state that after the eligibility maintenance period expires, that they will only use flights and not miles to give status?
When does the eligibility maintenance period expire? Lets say you earn diamond, you have it for 24 months from your original "base date", and you don't accumulate enough miles to maintain during that 24 months, is that the end of the eligibility maintenance period? Because this would mean that you have 24 months from your original base date to re-qualify, and not from the date that your state was granted.
My confusion arises from their definition of base date,
Base Date* :
November 1 every even year for members who joined Asiana Club on or before September 30, 2008
Date of subscription for members who joined Asiana Club on or after October 1, 2008
The implication here is that you maintenance period does not start at 24 months from when you achieve status, but rather from your original base date (signup date for those that joined after 9/2008).
Am I wrong in this reading? FYI I got to this text by clicking the Diamond tab on the Membership System/Signup page.
It's further confusing because my interpretation of the above text conflicts with what is written on the Elite Membership Upgrade/ Eligibility Maintenance Requirements page.
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Qualification Period
- Elite Membership is granted based on the number of flights and Asiana Affiliate Card records over the 24-month period from the base date.
- If you satisfy the standard in the 24 months, early membership promotion is granted. The Elite membership status is maintained for the period of the early promotion and an additional 24 months.
- When the eligibility maintenance period expires, the new membership class is determined by the number of flights taken and Asiana affiliate card records over the previous 24 months. The number of flights taken and Asiana affiliate card records during the early upgrade period are not included when evaluating membership eligibility.
- * The number of flights boarded is based on the boarding date and Asiana affiliate card records are based on the accrual date when calculated in the membership eligibility evaluation. Elite Membership upgrade will be carried out the day after you meet the Elite Membership upgrade requirements.
What does that mean? Does it state that after the eligibility maintenance period expires, that they will only use flights and not miles to give status?
When does the eligibility maintenance period expire? Lets say you earn diamond, you have it for 24 months from your original "base date", and you don't accumulate enough miles to maintain during that 24 months, is that the end of the eligibility maintenance period? Because this would mean that you have 24 months from your original base date to re-qualify, and not from the date that your state was granted.
My confusion arises from their definition of base date,
Base Date* :
November 1 every even year for members who joined Asiana Club on or before September 30, 2008
Date of subscription for members who joined Asiana Club on or after October 1, 2008
The implication here is that you maintenance period does not start at 24 months from when you achieve status, but rather from your original base date (signup date for those that joined after 9/2008).
Am I wrong in this reading? FYI I got to this text by clicking the Diamond tab on the Membership System/Signup page.
It's further confusing because my interpretation of the above text conflicts with what is written on the Elite Membership Upgrade/ Eligibility Maintenance Requirements page.
#53
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: YYZ, SFO
Programs: DL Diamond, UA Platinum, OZ Diamond, AC Prestige25K
Posts: 129
Yes that is my understanding as well. From the base date (when you sign up), you have 2 years to qualify for the highest status you can, then another 2 years to requal for that status.
#54
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Small town near RNO
Programs: Delta 1MM/PM, BAEC GGL, Asiana Diamond Plus(Lifetime), AC *Tangerine
Posts: 887
Hi tdatta, welcome to Flyertalk!
I'll try to clarify the OZ system using my experience:
Signed up Feb 2010 making my Base Date is Feb 28, 2010 (last day of February). Upgrade/qualify date is Feb 2012
Made Gold April 2010, next downgrade date is now Feb 2014 since the I qualified early before the original qualify/downgrade date.
Made Diamond May 2010, no change in downgrade/qualify date
Made Diamond Plus December 2010, still no change in date.
Fast Forward to Feb 2012 Qualifying Mileage resets to zero and I'm still Diamond Plus until February 2014
Qualified for Diamond Plus in March 2013, new downgrade date is now February 2016, another early qualification.
Qualified for Diamond Plus in February 2015, new downgrade date is now February 2018, another early qualification.
Fast Forward to Feb 2016 Qualifying Mileage resets to zero and I'm still Diamond Plus until 2018
Qualified for Diamond Plus in November 2016, new downgrade date is now February 2018, another early qualification.
Qualified for Lifetime Diamond Plus in November 2017.
Starting in February 2018. No more downgrade/qualification dates
Hope this helps
I'll try to clarify the OZ system using my experience:
Signed up Feb 2010 making my Base Date is Feb 28, 2010 (last day of February). Upgrade/qualify date is Feb 2012
Made Gold April 2010, next downgrade date is now Feb 2014 since the I qualified early before the original qualify/downgrade date.
Made Diamond May 2010, no change in downgrade/qualify date
Made Diamond Plus December 2010, still no change in date.
Fast Forward to Feb 2012 Qualifying Mileage resets to zero and I'm still Diamond Plus until February 2014
Qualified for Diamond Plus in March 2013, new downgrade date is now February 2016, another early qualification.
Qualified for Diamond Plus in February 2015, new downgrade date is now February 2018, another early qualification.
Fast Forward to Feb 2016 Qualifying Mileage resets to zero and I'm still Diamond Plus until 2018
Qualified for Diamond Plus in November 2016, new downgrade date is now February 2018, another early qualification.
Qualified for Lifetime Diamond Plus in November 2017.
Starting in February 2018. No more downgrade/qualification dates
Hope this helps
Last edited by ttuna3; Sep 26, 2019 at 8:59 am Reason: typo
#56
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SE ASIA
Programs: SQ KF GO, OZ GO, QR PC PLAT, TG ROP SL, LCAH SL, IHG SPIRE, Marriott BONVOY GO, HILTON GO
Posts: 636
Evaluation period vs base date & Mileage for Tier maintain
Hi tdatta, welcome to Flyertalk!
I'll try to clarify the OZ system using my experience:
Signed up Feb 2010 making my Base Date is Feb 28, 2010 (last day of February). Upgrade/qualify date is Feb 2012
Made Gold April 2010, next downgrade date is now Feb 2014 since the I qualified early before the original qualify/downgrade date.
Made Diamond May 2010, no change in downgrade/qualify date
Made Diamond Plus December 2010, still no change in date.
Fast Forward to Feb 2012 Qualifying Mileage resets to zero and I'm still Diamond Plus until February 2014
Qualified for Diamond Plus in March 2013, new downgrade date is now February 2016, another early qualification.
Qualified for Diamond Plus in February 2015, new downgrade date is now February 2018, another early qualification.
Fast Forward to Feb 2016 Qualifying Mileage resets to zero and I'm still Diamond Plus until 2018
Qualified for Diamond Plus in November 2016, new downgrade date is now February 2018, another early qualification.
Qualified for Lifetime Diamond Plus in November 2017.
Starting in February 2018. No more downgrade/qualification dates
Hope this helps
I'll try to clarify the OZ system using my experience:
Signed up Feb 2010 making my Base Date is Feb 28, 2010 (last day of February). Upgrade/qualify date is Feb 2012
Made Gold April 2010, next downgrade date is now Feb 2014 since the I qualified early before the original qualify/downgrade date.
Made Diamond May 2010, no change in downgrade/qualify date
Made Diamond Plus December 2010, still no change in date.
Fast Forward to Feb 2012 Qualifying Mileage resets to zero and I'm still Diamond Plus until February 2014
Qualified for Diamond Plus in March 2013, new downgrade date is now February 2016, another early qualification.
Qualified for Diamond Plus in February 2015, new downgrade date is now February 2018, another early qualification.
Fast Forward to Feb 2016 Qualifying Mileage resets to zero and I'm still Diamond Plus until 2018
Qualified for Diamond Plus in November 2016, new downgrade date is now February 2018, another early qualification.
Qualified for Lifetime Diamond Plus in November 2017.
Starting in February 2018. No more downgrade/qualification dates
Hope this helps
So the re qualification period & renewal will always be for 2 years, & it'll just keep extending for 2 more years each time you renew by achieving the 30,000 miles required (for Diamond, in my case)
My current Evaluation period is -
2019.11.01 ~ 2021.10.31
I'll have 35,000 miles from two SQ SIN-LAX flights in PEY (R class 100%) in the next 6 weeks, & I'm thinking of not renewing my SQ KF Gold membership.
Instead I'll just credit all these miles to OZ & voila - 3.5 more years of *G (until 31 Oct. 2023 - if I read & understood the T&C's correctly)
#57
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: BOS/SIN
Programs: DL PM, OZ Diamond Plus, BA Silver
Posts: 1,796
Quick question - does anyone know if the lower requalification standards apply if you're dropping down a tier?
Am currently Diamond Plus expiring 3/2022, but perhaps unsurprisingly have not managed to do much flying in the past two years and am nowhere near the 75k needed to requalify. Considering doing a bunch of MRs to get to Diamond through 2024 (or whenever OZ finally merges with KE), but would I need 30k (i.e. the Diamond requalification threshold) to get Diamond, or 40k instead?
Am currently Diamond Plus expiring 3/2022, but perhaps unsurprisingly have not managed to do much flying in the past two years and am nowhere near the 75k needed to requalify. Considering doing a bunch of MRs to get to Diamond through 2024 (or whenever OZ finally merges with KE), but would I need 30k (i.e. the Diamond requalification threshold) to get Diamond, or 40k instead?
#58
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: SG & SFO
Programs: Marriott Titanium//JAL Global Club//HH Diamond//United 1K
Posts: 31
I wonder if this change is because they know that people are switching loyalty due to the merge with korean air ? I know I personally switched from asiana to united since I'm not sure how sustainable crediting flights to asiana will be
#59
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: QFF, Velocity, Asiana
Posts: 296
I'm waiting to see how it all shakes out. I figure there's another good year or two before they tackle merging the frequent flyer programs (I don't even think the merger deal has been signed and sealed yet by the regulators) and when they do it's not like what I have will disappear, it'll just get merged into Korean Air. I'm not interested in switching over to them, but I expect that a number of Star Alliance carriers will have some sort of status match offer when it occurs (I believe that's what has happened in past when carriers have exited the alliance) and then I can switch over to a new Star Alliance carrier and just burn off whatever points I have left that are now in Korean Air at my leisure.
#60
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Los Angeles, CA; Philadelphia, PA
Programs: OZ Diamond
Posts: 6,108
I'm waiting to see how it all shakes out. I figure there's another good year or two before they tackle merging the frequent flyer programs (I don't even think the merger deal has been signed and sealed yet by the regulators) and when they do it's not like what I have will disappear, it'll just get merged into Korean Air. I'm not interested in switching over to them, but I expect that a number of Star Alliance carriers will have some sort of status match offer when it occurs (I believe that's what has happened in past when carriers have exited the alliance) and then I can switch over to a new Star Alliance carrier and just burn off whatever points I have left that are now in Korean Air at my leisure.
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