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Asiana Airline OZ214 777 crash at SFO (6 Jul 2013)

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OZ 214 ICN-SFO (reg no HL-7742), a 2006 Boeing 777-200ER with P&W PW4090 engines; flew ICN - KIX - ICN immediately prior (not as OZ 214). 291 passengers and 16 crew on board. 3 people dead, 48 seriously injured, 132 less so.

Aircraft landed short on approach (VFR weather, ILS out of service, PAPI working) impacting the seawall delimiting runway 28L with main landing gear and then the tail 11:28 PDT, careering down the runway to a stop and ensuing fire. The empennage and both engines separated from the fuselage, and fire from an oil drip in engine no. 2 burnt a significant part of the upper forward fuselage.

Runway 28L / 10R was closed until 1700 PDT 12 July; all SFO runways are open.

Here is a Link to the Flightaware track. (6 Jul 2013).

Link to original BBC article; Link to BBC photo show

Update: 08 July 2013
Summary of NTSB press conference

Update: 09 July 2013
SF Gate summary of NTSB press conference

Update: 10 July 2013
NBC video and summary of NTSB press conference

Update: 11 July 2013
San Jose Mercury summary of final NTSB press conference

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Asiana Airline OZ214 777 crash at SFO (6 Jul 2013)

Old Jul 6, 2013, 1:57 pm
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Tweet of the plane crashing (hard to see)

https://twitter.com/stefanielaine/st...173696/photo/1
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 1:57 pm
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looks like one of the landing gears is next to the 'L' on runway 28
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Old Jul 6, 2013, 1:57 pm
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One of the two main landing gear assemblies is lying back there by the "L" in "28L".

There is a goodly amount of aircraft bits way back there where it's not supposed to be. It seems to point to issues guiding the aircraft to a proper landing.

The BA/LHR thing was mechanical (fuel flow issues IIRC). This looks like execution issues.
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Beginning to look like pilot error. Perhaps what happened with KoreanAir crews in the past, cockpit hierarchy etc ...
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Originally Posted by flyinbob
Definitely hit too early. Impact seems to be on the sea wall, probably the gear.
Screen grabs from Fox video:



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Touched down too early for sure.

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Lousy reporter:


http://www.boston.com/business/news/...2PL/story.html


Asiana is a South Korean airline, second in size to national carrier Korean Air. It has recently tried to expand its presence in the United States, and joined the oneWorld alliance, anchored by American Airlines and British Airways.

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Old Jul 6, 2013, 2:01 pm
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Watching overhead video. Looks like the aircraft touched down way too short on 28L. Looks like the tail might have struck the rocks in the water. Most of the debris is between the water and the big 28L that is painted on the runway. To out it in perspective, the debris is mostly on the"<<<<<<<" that guides the planes to the beginning of the runway.

This is just my opinion. But most important, I truly hope the early reports are true and everyone survived. Safe Travels.
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Originally Posted by Braniff
Beginning to look like pilot error. Perhaps what happened with KoreanAir crews in the past, cockpit hierarchy etc ...
Premature to speculate, but if it is a control / flying error this incident is going to stir up all the old ghosts about Korean flying proficiency and cockpit management culture.
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people so crazy to stop and take pictures:

https://twitter.com/shelbygrad/statu...289602/photo/1
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Plenty of lousy reporting going on today. CBS reporter: "You might not be familiar with Asiana Airlines since it is a cargo carrier."
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"Touched down too early" vs. "Barely made it to the runway"

which one? @:-)
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Emergency crews have just initially reported zero lives lost, which is amazing and a testament to Asiana's flight crew getting everyone evacuated.
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Originally Posted by Bacai
Lousy reporter:


http://www.boston.com/business/news/...2PL/story.html


Asiana is a South Korean airline, second in size to national carrier Korean Air. It has recently tried to expand its presence in the United States, and joined the oneWorld alliance, anchored by American Airlines and British Airways.

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I know that lazy reporting is endemic, but keep in mind that we are av geeks, and not everyone else is. At least the reporter got the country right.
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Originally Posted by Braniff
Beginning to look like pilot error. Perhaps what happened with KoreanAir crews in the past, cockpit hierarchy etc ...
Waaaaaaay too early for this kind speculation, please.
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