Transfer from T2 to T1 in TPE with checked baggage & kids with < 2hr.. .am I doomed?
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Transfer from T2 to T1 in TPE with checked baggage & kids with < 2hr.. .am I doomed?
My family and I will be travelling from YYZ to YVR to TPE on an Air Canada (AC) flight (scheduled arrival in TPE at 16:30h) then we will transfer to a Tigerair Taiwan (IT) flight onward to Okinawa, Japan with a scheduled departure time of 18:20h (1hr 50min. transfer time). We will have checked luggage and kids (7 and 9 years old) in tow. We hold two separate tickets (open jaw AC tickets for YYZ->YVR->TPE, and one-way IT ticket just for the TPE-OKA leg). I understand AC arrives in Terminal 2 and IT flights depart from Terminal 1. I need to understand the whole transfer process so that we know exactly where to go to ensure we make our connection within the tight timeline we face. So hopefully someone can help answer my questions:
1. With the different airlines, is it even possible to have the checked baggage transferred automatically to the IT flight to the ultimate destination (OKA)? It is advisable or are we risking to have our checked baggage lost or delayed? I'd only consider it if it saves us significant time during the transfer process at TPE. If it doesn't, then I won't risk it and I'll pick up the baggage during the transfer.
2. I understand from the Transfer Process posted on TPE's website that there will be a Transfer Counter that we will need to get to. According to the chart, TigerAir Taiwan is Transfer Counter B. Is that located in Terminal 1? When we arrive in Terminal 2, do we follow the Transfer signage or do we need to go through customs/immigration because we have checked baggage?
3. Assuming the worst-case scenario (need to go through customs/immigration, pick up checked baggage, exit the terminal, take SkyTrain to Terminal 1, go to TigerAir Taiwan check-in counter, drop off baggage, go through customs/immigration & security again). Is that do-able with the < 2 hr connection time we have (assuming no delays)?
4. Any tips to help us get through this transfer quicker?
1. With the different airlines, is it even possible to have the checked baggage transferred automatically to the IT flight to the ultimate destination (OKA)? It is advisable or are we risking to have our checked baggage lost or delayed? I'd only consider it if it saves us significant time during the transfer process at TPE. If it doesn't, then I won't risk it and I'll pick up the baggage during the transfer.
2. I understand from the Transfer Process posted on TPE's website that there will be a Transfer Counter that we will need to get to. According to the chart, TigerAir Taiwan is Transfer Counter B. Is that located in Terminal 1? When we arrive in Terminal 2, do we follow the Transfer signage or do we need to go through customs/immigration because we have checked baggage?
3. Assuming the worst-case scenario (need to go through customs/immigration, pick up checked baggage, exit the terminal, take SkyTrain to Terminal 1, go to TigerAir Taiwan check-in counter, drop off baggage, go through customs/immigration & security again). Is that do-able with the < 2 hr connection time we have (assuming no delays)?
4. Any tips to help us get through this transfer quicker?
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This is all about risk tolerance? What is the alternative. E.g., Is there a later flight?
The likelihood is that you will be a no show for your onwards flight. What happens then and what does that cost?
The likelihood is that you will be a no show for your onwards flight. What happens then and what does that cost?
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I would choose security airside in transit over departures security in a heartbeat. TPE is one of the easiest and fastest airports in Asia to do international transit. The one drawback is they have a good distance to travel between Terminals 1 and 2 but they have to travel that distance that no matter landside or airside.
OP, to answer your questions:
1- you need to ask AC if they will check your bags through to IT. Check carefully, because as someone already posted probably not. You do not want to check and claim your bags in TPE, even if your flight is on time your odds are not good. There can be a back-up at immigration to enter Taiwan, a delay in getting your bags, then you need to change terminals, check in again, go through security which is frequently backed up, and departure immigration which alone can take more than 30 minutes. You would need a miracle to make it. Compare that to going to the transit counter to get your boarding passes and then transit security which is never more than 5 minutes.
2.From the ifly.com website: Transfer from T2, Zones C or D to T1, Zones A or B: After disembarking at Zones C or D, follow signs to the Skytrain boarding area, then ride the Skytrain to T1; thereafter proceed to the transfer counter at either Zone A or B of T1 to check-in for onward flight; go through security control and therefater to your boarding gate on level 3F.
3. This is not a good option.
4. TPE is set up for international transfers and unlike ICN or NRT does not have a gazillion people doing it. You just need a back-up plan if your AC flight is late. You probably understand that with two totally separate reservations Tiger Air is not going to do anything for you if the AC flight is delayed and you cannot make your connection.
Last edited by uanj; Feb 8, 2019 at 8:32 am
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OP, to answer your questions:
1- you need to ask AC if they will check your bags through to IT. Check carefully, because as someone already posted probably not. You do not want to check and claim your bags in TPE, even if your flight is on time your odds are not good. There can be a back-up at immigration to enter Taiwan, a delay in getting your bags, then you need to change terminals, check in again, go through security which is frequently backed up, and departure immigration which alone can take more than 30 minutes. You would need a miracle to make it. Compare that to going to the transit counter to get your boarding passes and then transit security which is never more than 5 minutes.
1- you need to ask AC if they will check your bags through to IT. Check carefully, because as someone already posted probably not. You do not want to check and claim your bags in TPE, even if your flight is on time your odds are not good. There can be a back-up at immigration to enter Taiwan, a delay in getting your bags, then you need to change terminals, check in again, go through security which is frequently backed up, and departure immigration which alone can take more than 30 minutes. You would need a miracle to make it. Compare that to going to the transit counter to get your boarding passes and then transit security which is never more than 5 minutes.
2.From the ifly.com website: Transfer from T2, Zones C or D to T1, Zones A or B: After disembarking at Zones C or D, follow signs to the Skytrain boarding area, then ride the Skytrain to T1; thereafter proceed to the transfer counter at either Zone A or B of T1 to check-in for onward flight; go through security control and therefater to your boarding gate on level 3F.
4. TPE is set up for international transfers and unlike ICN or NRT does not have a gazillion people doing it. You just need a back-up plan if your AC flight is late. You probably understand that with two totally separate reservations Tiger Air is not going to do anything for you if the AC flight is delayed and you cannot make your connection.
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I've already abandoned the idea of bringing checked luggage. It will be difficult for a family of 4 to bring 4 carry-ons but we'll have to make it work. No alternative given the circumstances.
This is what I'm confused about. On another forum, someone said there is no Skytrain on the airside between T1 and T2. But what you quoted from ifly.com website (and also from TPE's website) seems to suggest there is. I assume the Transfer Counter in either terminals are all on airside and that the transfer procedure doesn't require us to "enter" Taiwan... Hope someone can confirm this point.
Unfortunately the 18:20h Tigerair flight is the last one to Okinawa for the day so we'd have to stay overnight if we miss that flight. If I can check-in on the Tigerair flight online (prior to leaving Toronto), then I will have my boarding passes in hand when I arrive at TPE, correct? Then is there any need to rush to the Transfer counter in zone B 45 min. prior to departure? Would we just proceed to the gate with our carry-on luggage in tow and make sure we get there at least half an hour before departure?
This is what I'm confused about. On another forum, someone said there is no Skytrain on the airside between T1 and T2. But what you quoted from ifly.com website (and also from TPE's website) seems to suggest there is. I assume the Transfer Counter in either terminals are all on airside and that the transfer procedure doesn't require us to "enter" Taiwan... Hope someone can confirm this point.
Unfortunately the 18:20h Tigerair flight is the last one to Okinawa for the day so we'd have to stay overnight if we miss that flight. If I can check-in on the Tigerair flight online (prior to leaving Toronto), then I will have my boarding passes in hand when I arrive at TPE, correct? Then is there any need to rush to the Transfer counter in zone B 45 min. prior to departure? Would we just proceed to the gate with our carry-on luggage in tow and make sure we get there at least half an hour before departure?
I noticed that Tigerair Taiwan at Transfer Counter B is also the handling agent for JetStar and JetStar Japan (I believe). Maybe your back-up plan could be get a ticket from them if they have later flights. It is worth checking, many of LCC flights are scheduled at odd hours. Wish you luck and hope you enjoy Okinawa!
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CONFIRMED, the transit counters are all airside and you do not go through immigration before or after. You arrive at the correct transit counter. either pass directly to the security screen area with your boarding passes in hand or first go to the counter to get them and then hit security, then down the escalator you go to your gate. Because this is set up for transit if you are tight on time they will all help you through as quickly as they can. Even if you feel time is sufficient, don't dawdle. You can relax and shop when you arrive at your departure gate.
I noticed that Tigerair Taiwan at Transfer Counter B is also the handling agent for JetStar and JetStar Japan (I believe). Maybe your back-up plan could be get a ticket from them if they have later flights. It is worth checking, many of LCC flights are scheduled at odd hours. Wish you luck and hope you enjoy Okinawa!
I noticed that Tigerair Taiwan at Transfer Counter B is also the handling agent for JetStar and JetStar Japan (I believe). Maybe your back-up plan could be get a ticket from them if they have later flights. It is worth checking, many of LCC flights are scheduled at odd hours. Wish you luck and hope you enjoy Okinawa!
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Ok, thanks for the confirmation and the really helpful information. Just one more question: If I'm arriving in Terminal 2 (Air Canada flight) and need to get to Transit Counter B which is in Terminal 1, do I just hop on the airside SkyTrain to go to T1 then proceed to the transit counter B to pick up the boarding pass (assuming I don't already did an online check-in and already have my boarding passes in hand when I arrive in TPE)? I'll be holding two separate tickets (non-through tickets) so I hope that doesn't cause any issues with the transfer.
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I just did a live chat with Tigerair customer service and they are telling me because I'm holding separate tickets, I need to go through immigration and check-in at the Terminal 1 outside check-in counter and get the boarding pass from there, then go through immigration & security again. I'm trying to understand why they can't issue the boarding pass at the Transfer counter as noted in the Transit procedure.
Edit: It looks like I'm SOL. After doing some research it does look like if I'm holding separate tickets I cannot do transfer airside. That's only possible if it's an interlining ticket. So as others have suggested, I'm looking into a contingency plan. But with the Tigerair flight being the last direct flight to Okinawa that night, the next available flight would be the next day and I'd have to remain in Taiwan overnight. Does the airport have any on-site accommodations for travellers staying overnight?
Edit: It looks like I'm SOL. After doing some research it does look like if I'm holding separate tickets I cannot do transfer airside. That's only possible if it's an interlining ticket. So as others have suggested, I'm looking into a contingency plan. But with the Tigerair flight being the last direct flight to Okinawa that night, the next available flight would be the next day and I'd have to remain in Taiwan overnight. Does the airport have any on-site accommodations for travellers staying overnight?
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Because tiger air wants to weigh your carry on, etc. and charge you the extra fees. Typical with Asian LLCs. If the flight the next day is cheap book that as a contingency plan. If the AC flight is on time there's a decent chance you will make it. If you miss the flight it wont be difficult to make a last minute hotel booking. Maybe check peach as they have a morning flight? If you have a lot of time go into town. That's what I would do.
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I see that you’ve already been told that airside transfers are not possible in the case of separate tickets. Your timing is way too tight. I would expect to have to spend a night at an airport hotel and fly out the next morning.