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Originally Posted by kale73
(Post 30968078)
Are the above suggestions re: bringing in alcohol, places that surreptitiously serve alcohol, etc. still valid in light of the newly implemented penal code? Good questions to ask ! I read some people were referring now to Brunei as the Saudi Arabia of SE Asia 😄 |
Is this the same sultan who was importing call girls and had a hotel-like compound where they stayed (and were guarded/watched) until he wanted them? |
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 30968892)
Is this the same sultan who was importing call girls and had a hotel-like compound where they stayed (and were guarded/watched) until he wanted them? A great thing to do in Brunei would be to take a nature trip into the interior, as that has hardly been disturbed. Am not sure how easy the logistics on that would be. |
I couldn't do anything to support the economy of such a country these days.
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Manage your expectations. If you don't want to see any mosques and you aren't going to head into the jungle there's a few hours worth of stuff to do. See the museum of the Sultan's knick-knacks, go to the floating village, try to choke down some revolting ambuyat and stroll through the 4 streets of what may be the world's most boring capital city.
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Originally Posted by SJOGuy
(Post 30987733)
I couldn't do anything to support the economy of such a country these days.
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I'm not talking about oil. I'm talking about Bruinei's ghoulish punishments against LGBT people.
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Originally Posted by SJOGuy
(Post 31016619)
I'm not talking about oil. I'm talking about Bruinei's ghoulish punishments against LGBT people.
And please note LGBT folk are not the only targets for the country's statutory viciousness. |
As someone who has actually been to Brunei, I'll reply to the thread, hence it's dated. But at least my input might help someone later on, because some of the comments posted irk me seriously.
Originally Posted by gpia
(Post 27941711)
No idea why anyone would rent a car there.
The Pan-Bornean Highway is very handy for reaching Seria and other parts of the country. :) Two days is well enough for a car holiday in Brunei. I personally did of course drive very small roads as well with my KIA Sportage. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4915e82935.jpg
Originally Posted by gpia
(Post 27941711)
Afterwards, the memorabilia museum downtown is very well worth a visit, and you can easily spend 2 hours there. There's a sizeable model of the Sultan's Dreamliner in the lobby, so FT needs are fulfilled as well
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d73b027c7d.jpg The 787-8 model of BI is however at display at BWN. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c11c417e1a.jpg
Originally Posted by RustyC
(Post 27950392)
I remember staying at the Pusat Belia one time and the Capital Hotel the other...back then the only places that were even semi-affordable. Am sure there's more choice now.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3dbd8b5318.jpg
Originally Posted by jphripjah
(Post 28451119)
Yes, the Museum of the Sultan's Stuff is worthwhile
The maritime and Malay technology museums are also worthwile, easily visited by car. All museums in Brunei are free of charge.
Originally Posted by RustyC
(Post 30987676)
I think it was the sultan's brother who was most associated with that.
Originally Posted by RustyC
(Post 30987676)
A great thing to do in Brunei would be to take a nature trip into the interior, as that has hardly been disturbed. Am not sure how easy the logistics on that would be.
Originally Posted by IAN-UK
(Post 31021525)
But best to point out these are only theoretical measures. Not nice, but Brunei is certainly not alone or even in the forefront of such craziness.
First of all Brunei hasn't exercised the capital punishment during its independence since 1984. There's no moratorium on it. I just guess people have been smart enough to avoid e.g. importing over 1 kg of opium and being caught for it. :p Capital punishment is mandatory for certain drug trafficking crimes. As for caning, it previously only applied to males. All the aforementioned just like in Singapore and it's a British colonial legacy. Now this latest Sharia based legislation does indeed change the stance on canings and would also mean caning females, which is contrary to previous legislation, which had no religious background. OTOH, it's not obvious to me do they still follow the Sharia as it should be followed, meaning this gender minority legislation should in fact only apply to Muslims. At least that's how it should be, based on their previous application of Sharia, which was of the righteous kind. The alcohol consumption and purchasing bans only apply to Muslims, which explains why you can import bottles from Malaysia by car or don't have to fast during Ramadan etc. Sharia in its true form doesn't apply to other Abrahamic peoples (Christians and Jews). Just like alchohol isn't outright illegal in e.g. Iran. Alas, you can also have wine served on BI (Royal Brunei Airlines, in case IATA codes aren't your thing), if you bring your own bottle. Not an issue. Visiting Brunei isn't a big deal or in any sense dangerous. :) And one has to remember that Malays are after usually a bit laid back and outright lazy, so they don't fuss about everything. The religious stuff just keeps them in check. This is of course just my own view, but I have no qualms with Malays. The previously mentioned "magic tea" (beer in a teapot) is linked to the Chinese minority, which run some restaurants. So if alcohol is a must for you (heck, why are you in Brunei then?), then visit a Chinese restaurant and inquire for some magic tea. I personally don't have any experience of that bootleg stuff, because I'm happy to be without drinking alcohol for weeks and months. |
Originally Posted by GetSetJetSet
(Post 30997315)
stroll through the 4 streets of what may be the world's most boring capital city.
The boat tour to the mangrove forest just outside the capital with those long nose monkeys and other fauna - that was the best part. Kampong Ayer was the second best. Mosques - interesting modern muslim architecture. Sultan's stuff museum - weird, to say the least. We had basically the whole Empire hotel complex to ourselves - there were maybe a dozen other guests, who stayed by the pool. We had the totally empty sandy beach for ourselves! One can spend 2-3 days there, no problems, but after that it's very refreshing to move over to Sarawak. |
Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
(Post 31040499)
Riyadh is miles ahead in the competition for that title, but Seri Begawan is a strong second. The airport is a tie with VTE for the "most deserted airport of a capital city" title.
The boat tour to the mangrove forest just outside the capital with those long nose monkeys and other fauna - that was the best part. Kampong Ayer was the second best. Mosques - interesting modern muslim architecture. Sultan's stuff museum - weird, to say the least. We had basically the whole Empire hotel complex to ourselves - there were maybe a dozen other guests, who stayed by the pool. We had the totally empty sandy beach for ourselves! One can spend 2-3 days there, no problems, but after that it's very refreshing to move over to Sarawak. |
Any recommendations of a good driver with car? We will have about a 4-1/2 hour layover and would like to get out of the airport for a couple of hours to see the major sights.
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Originally Posted by essexnyc
(Post 36445373)
Any recommendations of a good driver with car? We will have about a 4-1/2 hour layover and would like to get out of the airport for a couple of hours to see the major sights.
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